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My daughter Jamie called from Bellingham, WA this morning to tell us that her hubbie got laid-off today. Not earth shaking new to the millions of people who've faced or will soon be facing the same thing. However, in my S-I-L's case it's a little different.

He started working for me in my company in Hawaii while still in high school. That was 31 years ago. After he finished school he came to work in our business full time. When I sold the company and retired in 1991, Sandro was retained by the new owners and they've continued his employment up until the end of 2007. He transferred from Hawaii to one of their mainland branches in the early 90s. He gave them 27 years of profitable full time service.

In January of 2008, a major competitior of Sandro's company made an overture to him to come join them. It was a promotion, more $ and he'd work much closer to home than his former location. He was assured of the same or better benefits, vacation, insurance, sick leave, pension, blah blah blah. He accepted their offer. Now today, 13 months later, after he brought all of his former customers with him and taught the new company's employees what he had learned in 27 years in the industry, he was told that he was simply too expensive for them to keep in a declining economy and he was terminated with no advance notice, severance pay or accrued vacation time. WA law is extremely pro-employer as an at-will state.

Economic decisions are one thing ... lack of professional ethics and chitty treatment is quite another. Sandro has to fight his own battles so I won't get involved despite the fact that I've personally known the owners of that business for more than 30 years.

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Wow - that is disgraceful. I assume he did not have a contract with them.

If he had the means, he could probably start up his own business and snatch back all of those clients he brought with him.
 

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There is no loyalty by companies anymore, and further more there is very little loyalty left in employees anymore either. The workforce has really changed.

That is so $hitty. I hope you SIL finds an even better job.

Wasn't he in the insurance business?
 

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Wow, this is very disturbing especiallly since he's brought so much to the company in such a short time. There really is no loyalty at the workplace as Raian said. My good thoughts that something acceptable comes along for him.
 

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Employees are just a material asset today. I've been in the business world since 67. Companies used to value employees, especially the better ones. They would carry them through the bad times to be in a better position when the turn came. Employees repaid that loyalty 10 fold. It has been slow, but its not that way any more. And it has reflected in the attitude of the employee. Many of us used to work 60-70 hours weeks out of personal commitment and pride in our jobs. Not anymore. There is nothing on the other side.
 

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I am sorry Jim - that is nasty and kinda of proves why many employees have little loyalty anymore...because some employers don't deserve it!
 

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Oh man Jim, that stinks. Any chance his old place will take him back? :eek:
 

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Even if they would, he wouldn't go back. Once you find it's appropriate to divorce a 27 year long "spouse", and married someone else, would you ask to be taken back if that 2nd marriage ended 13 months later?

Jamie and Sandro have had a Sound Studio as a side line for a number of years. They are apparently very good at it and have to limit the events they do just based upon their time available since they both worked full time elsewhere. Sandro's job situation may just provide the impetus for him to finally make the plunge by being in his own business full time.

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Sandro was in that very difficult $50-100K bracket where jobs of that pay level have virtually disappeared. To make things worse, there were only two companies in his line of business from Seattle all the way North into Canada. He had worked for both of them.
 

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at our exit interviews, HR will usually "invite" some employees back if they ever want to come back. They put a memo in the employee's file regarding re-hiring. Too bad this isn't the case for your SIL.

Best of luck to him, Jim.
 
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