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So employee shows up for the 4:00 meeting yesterday looking way too smug. We found out later in the day that he had already told two other project managers that he was getting a raise.

Chris ushers him into his office and because he knows that he can either leave the intercom on or be forced to recreate the entire thing for me later, he leaves the intercom on so that I can hear.

Chris explains that while we value his efforts, with the entire industry pretty much is disarray, that there is no way he can give him a raise. Employee basically says that if you can't give me 20%, then what's your offer. Chris says there isn't going to be an offer and actually we can't keep him on knowing that he'll be looking for other work; that there is no way that Chris can expect that his bid and work leads will be held confidential, and here's your severance check. Stunned silence ensued, followed by much fumbling for words. He said he thought we were overreacting and Chris pretty much told him that he doesn't cotton to ultimatums. (Yes, he actually used the word 'cotton') We'd be happy to give him a good reference unless we heard through the grapevine that he was claiming that we had let him go because of lack of work; if he said that, there'd be no recommendation. A rumor like that is death in construction because people don't trust you to be around to finish their project or to be there through the warranty period.

Anyway, no loud words until Chris asked for his keys and gas and company credit cards, at which point the F word flew around a bunch and he tried to claim he didn't have them with him. Didn't matter anyway since I had cancelled his authorization to charge on them before he even came in.

So we have our first officially disgruntled former employee, and a very bored laborer who is going to sit around the office for the rest of the week on the off-chance that Employee comes back with an attitude.
 

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Sounds like it was very professionally handled. +10 for use of the word cotton.

This dim-bulb has nobody to blame but himself.
 

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Sounds like it was very professionally handled. +10 for use of the word cotton.

This dim-bulb has nobody to blame but himself.
Chris' grandfather was basically the black version of Big Daddy from Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. When Chris gets in a stressful situation, he comes out with all sorts of words like 'cotton' that his grandfather used to use and he can drop into a little bit of a southern accent.

It probably went as well as could have been hoped, considering the guy didn't see it coming at all.
 

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Chris' grandfather was basically the black version of Big Daddy from Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. .
LOL. Better than Strother Martin from Cool Hand Luke: "What we have heah, is a FAILURE to commUNicate..."
 

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Anyway, no loud words until Chris asked for his keys and gas and company credit cards, at which point the F word flew around a bunch and he tried to claim he didn't have them with him. Didn't matter anyway since I had cancelled his authorization to charge on them before he even came in.
Smart move - VERY smart move. :) Do you think he'll come crawling back when he finds out how tough it is out there in the real world? :confused:
 

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Congratulations! That was a masterful job by Chris. His use of "cotton" was inspired!
 

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I guess he learned a hard life lesson.

I view my relationship with my boss as a partnership. I do my best and he knows it. I work extra.....I took a pay cut along with the other folks in our office and shop....but I extended my hours to keep us going. When we get rolling again I am sure a nice bonus will be coming my way.

It's tough times right now and employees have no leverage. We just had two people complain about lack of raises.....I just shrug......there's the door if you don't like it.

We are all just trying to get through this tough time and if you don't want to give a little......than you need to find a different job. .....and there are no other jobs.
 

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The scary thing for this guy is that we have kept some of the better resumes we have received over the last few months, and when I called three guys this morning to come in for interviews, all three were still available. That does not bode well for ex-employee; these three all would have been snapped up a minute if the economy weren't in the toilet.
 

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It sounds like it was handled quite well. Dh and I are planning to start our own company in a few years (if life allows it) and that's about how we would handle that situation.
 

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Good for your hubby! I agree - that was a dumb move on employees part, but you'll get somebody better to fill his shoes. Now the worrisome part - disgruntled employees are doing stupid things these days, I hope this one just crawls back home and figures out how to be a better employee next time around.
 

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Nicely handled by your hubby! Love that he used "cotton to" in a sentence & in the correct context.

Dumbass deserves what he got! You don't threaten to leave after asking for an unrealistic pay raise & not truly have another option in hand. Then to go around shooting off your mouth about it to other employees... another truly stupid move.

I would guess by his reaction that he did NOT have another job that would pay him 20% more. Oh well... his loss. Glad to hear you'll be interviewing people to replace him.
 

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Wow, that guy is an IDIOT!! I can't imagine anyone sniffing around for a raise in this economy...most people are just happy to have jobs! Even if he was going to ask for a raise, what an incredibly stupid way of going about it! On a positive front, doesn't sound like you will have trouble filling his shoes!
 
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