This is a spinoff on Aim's thread and someone said they hadn't been to downtown in 15 years. How many live near a major metro area/city yet hardly ever go to downtown? I live 7 miles from downtown Portland, but the only time I seem to go there is when I have out-of-town company. When I was in So. Cal, lived 10 minutes from downtown Long Beach, avoided it like the plague. Lived 30 minutes from downtown LA, been there done that.