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Jozie was spayed on the 24th. She developed a large bump, a bit larger than an egg. We have been using a hot compress on it. It seems to have stayed about the same. Has anyone else seen this happen to their dog after a spay?

It does not seem to bother her. She lets us touch it, it not hot, and their is not a discharge. She has a ton of energy. We have been keeping her in her crate with and x-pen attached to it. Trying to keep her as calm as we can. But she is still a puppy.
 

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Re: Spay Complications?

More details please,or a picture if you can get one...
Is it red?
Where is the bump? On the incision line or to the side? Beginning, middle end?
Does it get flat if you push (gently) on it?
Does it seem like it's in the skin or coming from deeper?

Something that size not painful would make me wonder if she has a hernia, which is not really urgent but does require surgical repair. However, if it changes and becomes very tender or she begins behaving like she's really sick, get thee to a vet STAT.
 

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Re: Spay Complications?

It's not red or bruised. The incision is in the center of it and it's the length of the incision. It does not get flat when touching it. It's a little bit mushy.

We have a vet appointment on Tuesday for her ears.
 

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Sounds like a hernia from the description - basically, the underlayer of muscle which below the skin was sewn closed, and now that came open...

This is a link to a little info page and picture on a human example.
http://www.herniaonline.com/typesofhernias/incisional.html

Granted, I'm not a vet and I haven't seen the pup but based on my "people" medical knowledge, this is something to have the vet see, but not a need to get to the emergency vet or anything. Tuesday should be fine. That is, unless it becomes incarcerated/strangulated - she would be sore in that area, it might get rapidly more swollen, she might start vomiting, or acting really un-well. That would merit an emergent visit, but you would know something was wrong.
 

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And also, warm compresses aren't likely to help a hernia... they really just help something that needs to drain like a boil or abcess (and I can't imagine either of those being egg-sized but nontender)

Best thing is just avoiding straining, jumping, etc. In people, we try to make sure they aren't constipated, to minimize 'bearing down' but I don't know that there's anything to that in dogs.

Keep us posted on how she's doing or news from the vet, ok? Good luck!
 

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I brought Jozie in today. It's not a hernia! Thank goodness! :)They said a hernia would be painful to her. It's fluid, from being too active. They gave me antibiotics and a sedation medication to keep her calmer. So, one more week of inactivity. :'(

Thanks again to VioletsFolks for your input!

Rae
 

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Great news! And what a lab-type ailment ("too active" lol!)
Glad to hear it's nothing too major, sounds like they'll have her up to speed before long.
Hang in there with the bored puppy. Give her lots of head rubbin' and ear scratchin' for me.
-cheryl
 

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Rae,

Just saw this, glad to see it is nothing serious for Miss Jaden, other than her being a typically active labby pup.
 

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I am guessing that you're probably talking about a seroma, which is a pocket of fluid (serum, if you will) that forms in the pocket left behind when the incision is made in the first place. Usually, the internal sutures will "close" the pocket left behind during surgery between the layers of tissue.

However, if the dog becomes too active too quickly (which is the case with *most* young, healthy labradors), then the tissue layers have too much movement to allow them to heal "together" and the serum collects in the pocket instead. Usually, if this is the case, the warm compresses *will* actually help, though typically the seroma will go away within about a month anyhow, as the body continues to heal and absorbs the excess fluid.

It is good that you're taking her in, though, because a suture reaction, a hernia (as mentioned above, though usually if it is that large, you should be able to 'poke' it back into her belly), or an infection can all appear very similar.

Let us know what the vet says!
 

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Sorry, Jozie...back in the crate, girlfriend.

Glad it was nothing serious. I know how hard it is to keep a good Lab down and I don't envy you at ALL.
 

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Poor Jozie. When Brigetta was spayed she had a reaction to the sutures and a lump developed. When I brought her to the vet the first thing he asked me about was how active she's been.
 

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CaliforniaLabLover said:
I am guessing that you're probably talking about a seroma, which is a pocket of fluid (serum, if you will) that forms in the pocket left behind when the incision is made in the first place. Usually, the internal sutures will "close" the pocket left behind during surgery between the layers of tissue.
Yes, it is a seroma and not a hernia. Although she has to stay inactive for one more week, I am glad she does not require another surgery. :)
Today, she is doing good. She's nice and calm. The hard part is keeping her and Jaden separated. :-\ And trying to keep them teasing each other. Jaden has been acting like a puppy since Jozie's surgery. I did not realize how much they tire each other out.
 

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Great news! ;D

And how bizarre that I actually wrote out that post around 6pm PST yesterday, and there were only I think 3 posts including the OP at that time...but it shows that I posted it today! It is only 9am PST right now...I can guarantee that I hadn't been up *that* early... I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone here! ;)
 

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Glad everything worked out ok. Riley is just over 4 months old...I'll be going through this soon. On top of that, I need to find a new vet. I was pretty happy with who I had chosen for her, but in the last month or so, I have been hearing some horror stories about him. I know he also insists on keeping them overnight after spaying, but I don't think anyone stays there to monitor them. I saw somewhere on this board some debating about whether to leave them or not (I need to try to find it again), so after hearing a few of the stories about Dr. Vet, decided I would bring Riley home when her time comes. Last straw was last week when my friend took her dog to the same vet and he was totally indifferent about the coughing, vomiting, etc. Well, it turns out the dog had cancer and died, and that is certainly not the vet's fault but I sure don't want a vet who is indifferent about it!!! Anyway, I need to find a new vet and am a bit nervous to test a new one out for her spaying.
 

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Glad to hear it's not serious. Chamois had something very similar after her spay, but now it's fine. Perhaps there's a bit more of a pronounced bump where the scar is than there otherwise would have been, but it healed up without complication. Hopefully the same will be the case fo Jozie.
 

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kathy5475 ,
I don't see why the vet would want to keep her overnight. Have you asked why? When I brought Jozie home, she was pretty drugged up and did not do anything but sleep.
As for finding a new Vet, you can wait a little longer for her spay. And test out some other Vets from recommendations of other dog owners in your area. Jozie was 9.5 months during her spay, and Jaden was 6 months.

Good Luck!
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Riley goes to the new vet tonight, so I'll see what her take is on the overnight stay. I'm not in a huge hurry to get her spayed (maybe in another 1 1/2 months), but I want to get it done during the summer while my daughter is home from school so she can help with any aftercare. Hope this doesn't offend anyone, but I've noticed for the last few weeks, she has begun "humping" blankets. I thought only little boy dogs did that??? ::) I sure hope it doesn't mean she'll go into early heat! My last lab had her first heat between 6-7 months and that was NO fun.
 
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