New to fieldwork as far as labs. We had an English Setter for 14 years who DH hunted upland birds with just as a hobby. Never have done any tests, formal work, etc. with dogs. We live in a rural area so we may need to do some leg work in looking up a trainer, but it is a point well-taken. I am sure we need to be trained as much as the dog. Thanks.theoconbrio said:If you are new to fieldwork and plan to do force fetching and/or use the e-collar, my suggestion would be to learn from a pro, not a book. You may already be doing this, and if so, my apologies, but any aversive-oriented training program can have unpleasant side-effects if you don't structure it properly and work hard to keep the dog's desire and enthusiasm high. It's an art as much as a science, and your best bet for learning it properly is from someone you trust. Are you working with a club?