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Hi all, I have been reading this board for a while but have just started my 1st post. You guys always gave great advice, so was hoping to hear some advice for my doggie.

I have 1 male yellow lab & 2 black mix girls. 1 of my girl is a lab mix who is about 13yrs young:)

She has never really had any serious health problems. But about 1 week ago, she suddenly doesn't seem to want to move. Especially the last 3 days, she refuse to get up to walk at all. She still eats & drinks when its brought to her but she just won't move.

When you get her up on her feet, she can actually walk but very stiff movements & the back is slightly arch.

Brought her to the vet, she said its arthritis & recommended a jab called castrophen and supplement with glucosamine in the long run. Just wondering if any of you here had similar experience with your seniors & what was your course of treatment for your precious ones.

I am really worried for her and would like to explore the best course for them. Am not expecting her to recover 100% back to her bouncy self before. But at least I would hope that she could regain her basic ability to move around to get to her food & drink & go to the toilet & make her feel more comfortable.

Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks all!
 

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Welcome! :)

Brought her to the vet, she said its arthritis
What did they do to determine it is indeed arthritis? I hope they did xrays to rule out other, more serious, things?
 

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Actually she did not do any xrays & didn't suggest it too. She was feeling her joints & could see her obvious stiffness & testing her for any signs of pain. I never had experience with seniors & I was probably in a panice mode then & not thinking properly.

Came home & thought about it & felt didnt seem too right. Hope to get some advice or should i just send her back for a thorough examination.
 

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Welcome!

I would either insist on a more complete exam or get another opinion. It seems like it was an awfully sudden onset to just claim it to be arthritis. The hunched back sounds suspicious also
 

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I would go back to the vet & get more tests or get a 2nd opinion just in case as Amy said, it's something more serious although arthritis is serious pain in itself. Poor girl. I hope you can get the pain under control. :(

Where does she sleep & what does she sleep on? If she's just sleeping on a hard floor, that wont be helping. She needs to be kept comfortable.

It's hard to talk about drugs because if you're in Singapore, you might have different treatments or the drugs might go under another name. I would be asking the vet about painkillers, anti-inflammatories & glucosamine. Cortisone (Prednisone) is a good anti-inflammatory but that's assuming it is arthritis.

Good luck & keep us posted re how she's progressing.
 

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I feel like a horrible mum now. :( Should have insisted on xray to be taken.

She is usually on my couch, but not being able to get up now, she is on the floor most of the time. I try to line a cushion under her. She was quite whiny before, but i reach out to gently massage & pat her she stops whining & the tail starts wagging. It really breaks my heart to see her like that.

I have a friend whose jack russell had similar symptoms. Seem like the spine is slightly out of alignment. Not sure if they had a term for that & her vet administered the same jab on him.

Planning on starting her on glucosamine. Also gently massaged her with arnica gel. She seem to look more comfy. Another question. Do you guys feed human glucosamine or those specifically for pets?

Thanks again!
 

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I seriously recommend the x-rays to rule out it´s not other things. If it appeared suddently it might be reumatism, because arthritis develops progressively and the dog would have shown signs of pain or lameness over time.

Glucosamine doesn´t calm pain, it supposedly helps keep cartilage alive and help joints, but in an old dog it probably won´t do anything.

Once it is ruled out that it is arthritis or reumatism, treatment has to be via painkillers and your vet needs to determine the best ones for your dog (there are many, rimadyl, metacam etogesic, in severe cases cortisone...)

Arthritis cannot be cured, the only thing you do is manage pain to keep them with relatively good quality of life. Don´t let your dog suffer! if the first vet didn´t offer a good solution look for another one
 

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She is usually on my couch, but not being able to get up now, she is on the floor most of the time. I try to line a cushion under her.
See if you can get a bed like this. You should be able to get one like it in any good pet store. If not, think about a human mattress for her.





Another question. Do you guys feed human glucosamine or those specifically for pets?
Maybe someone here can answer that but IMO, you should NEVER give human drugs to any animal unless it's prescribed by your vet. I had to go to my vet A/H one night in an emergency. He was trying to save a dog that was dying because its owner gave it a human antibiotic. I later found out he had to put it to sleep. The sound of that dog dying is something that will haunt me for the rest of my life. :(
 

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Arthritis so sever to keep her from getting up would not come on this quick. It would be gradual. The hunch in her back is a concern. She could have a slipped disc or she could have internal pain such as a blockage.

X-rays can definitively diagnose arthritis as mentioned by others.

You may also want to consider a canine chiropractor.

At her age I would also have full bloodwork and urinalysis done right away.

If it turns out to be arthritis (and she may have some at her age that is not related to her not getting up) here is some info on natural supplements you can try.

http://www.heartypet.com/blog/?p=25
 

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Yes you can give human grade Glucosomine and vitamins to dogs. Not "drugs" though, without checking with your vet. Some are safe, some are not.

I am curious as to what antibiotic was given to the poor dog that died. Clavamox and Amox are given to humans and to dogs (administered by the vet of course).
 

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I am curious as to what antibiotic was given to the poor dog that died. Clavamox and Amox are given to humans and to dogs (administered by the vet of course).
I don't know. I was too concerned about my own dog at the time. She had a bee sting & she was allergic to them. She was at deaths door herself. The vet told me if I had got there another 5 minutes later for that adrenaline shot, she would have died.

All I know is she was a nurse & she gave it a human antibiotic. It turned out whatever the problem was, it should never have been treated with antibiotics in the first place. Just because she was a nurse, she thought she knew everything & found out the hard way that she didn't. :(

Hopefully, she learned a hard lesson for the next dog she got - if there was a next dog.
 

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Wow, I can imagine your stress and fear. So glad you got there in time.

I went thru similar issue with exploratory surgery. Surgeon told me if I had not taken my girl in that day she would have died.

I would think this nurse has learned from her mistake.
 

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Wow, I can imagine your stress and fear. So glad you got there in time.

I went thru similar issue with exploratory surgery. Surgeon told me if I had not taken my girl in that day she would have died.

I would think this nurse has learned from her mistake.
Yeah it scares the hell out you alright. Sounds like you were very lucky too. What was the problem?

The thing with my girl was because she was only a little Pug, it made the venom more toxic than if it had been a big dog like a Lab. I had to rush her to the vet twice in her life. Both times she was minutes away from dying.

There's a pic of her here. She's the black Pug on the right.

http://forum.justlabradors.com/album.php?albumid=26

I wish the OP would get back here & let us know what's happening. :(
 

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Not sure if Lyme disease exists in your country - but the symptoms you describe sound like what happened to my senior dog when and she was ultimately diagnosed and successfully treated for it. I agree - pain that severe and sudden is probably not arthritis but an injury or something internal.
 

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Thanks all for your advice. Am making an appointment with the vet to get her xrays done.

Meanwhile, i am trying to keep her comfortable. Give her light massages. She doesn't seem to be in much pain unless she she has to get up.

Vet said i can give human / dog glucosamine & vitamins. She gave me the dosage, so that's what i am giving my girl now.

Her spirits are still high. She's still eating, tail wagging & giving kisses. My poor girl. I will update when i have the results. Thanks for your great advice.
 

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Yeah it scares the hell out you alright. Sounds like you were very lucky too. What was the problem?

The thing with my girl was because she was only a little Pug, it made the venom more toxic than if it had been a big dog like a Lab. I had to rush her to the vet twice in her life. Both times she was minutes away from dying.

There's a pic of her here. She's the black Pug on the right.

http://forum.justlabradors.com/album.php?albumid=26

I wish the OP would get back here & let us know what's happening. :(
He is adorable. I love Pugs. Had a stray at my house for a day and let me tell you he was the boss of my Lab. Too cute this little guy. His name was Frankie.

My girl started vomiting at midnight and went off her food. Temp went to 104.8 so we went in for an ultra sound where they drew fluid and blood from her abdomin and rushed us off to the ER. Exploratory surgery found a ruptured gallbladder. She had septisemia, peritonitis, low albumin and developed edema. She spent 8 days in the ER and almost didn't make it. First call from vet was "she most likely won't survive and your bill is already $4,000. do you want to continue?" (of course I said yes thru my tears) and the call the next day was "she is dancing on the edge".

She needed albumin transfusion but that can cause pancreatitis which would have killed her. The low albumin brings on the edema. Thankfully a diuretic counteracted the edema. My vet calls her the "miracle dog". GB rupture is rare in dogs and survival is only 50%.

It was one of the most awful times in my life waiting and worrying at home with her 5 month old daughter who I feared may never see her mother again.
 
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