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Dimly lit room. Someone enters. Starts poking around. Shifts through an old Life Magazine. Some charts of the island skipping around.

It's Caesar, the guy who was sitting next to Hurley on the Ajira flight to not-Guam. He's poking around a Dharma station.

He finds a sawed-off shotgun and places it in his pack. Chick enters -- we don't know who this is -- and questions what he's found. He lies; it's a flashlight.

Caesar's going to get along just fine on Craphole.

She tells him they've found someone on the beach in a suit, someone who was not on de-plane, de-plane.

It's Locke, of course, back from the dead.

We see his journey: After moving the Island's Big Wheel, Locke is dumped in Tunesia (thank you, titlecards), same as Benry was when he played timeline roulette. His leg is still horribly broken, and he lays there, dying.

Camera picks him up and, after dark, a rescue party is sent. They scoop him up and administer (rather primative) medical care to set the leg.

And the puppetmaster on all this? Why it's Widmore, of course!!

They figure out all the time-skip stuff, with Widmore telling Locke that they first met when he (Widdy) was 17. He tells Locke that nothing Ben said was trustworthy. That he needs to put his faith in him (Widdy). And that, yes, he's got to return to the island. Blah-de-blah.

He's given an escort/driver/concierge. It's the Hatian Sensation from HEROES in a freaky TV drama crossover!! No. But that's what I originally thought. It's really Abaddon. With a new ID and a sackload of cash, the two set off to gather the O6 and return them to where they belong.

And here's where things get a little dull -- We know from last week that eventually they all decide to go. So all this hand-wringing is a little stupid.

But Sayid says no. He's happy building homes in Santo Domingo in a Habitat-for-Humanity-style organization.

Walt isn't even asked, but it's good to see him. Points, off, though, for him not even ASKING about Vincent. And Locke falls short of telling him that his dad is dead. Not sure why...

Kate? No. Hurley? No. Jack. REALLY NO!

Jack and Locke meet in the hospital, after Locke has been creamed in a car crash (this guy really does have nine lives). Locke was escaping a sniper attack that took out Abaddon and that made me gasp.

Finally, after being told for the 295th time that he really ISN'T special, as Benry and Widmore have been preaching, Locke decides he's had enough. In a ratty hotel, he decides to take his own life (as we knew he would)...

But -- WOW, WHAT A TWIST -- Benry comes in just at the last second to save him.

Except that once he gets Locke to reveal the name of Eleanor Hawking (telling him that ONE of the O6, Jack, has bought the story enough to buy a plane ticket to Sydney), Benry kills Locke himself, making it look as if he went ahead w/his plan for asphyxiation.

Back on the island, Caesar and Locke talk, and it's all resurrection chatter and time travel innuendo. Caesar tells Locke that there's someone ELSE there who wasn't on the manifest.

It's Ben!

WHOOSHSHSHSHSHSH!
 

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Ben was on the manifest, he had a ticket. Isn't that woman that was in the Dharma station the Marshall that had Sayid? Or was it her that went off with the Pilot? I think Ceaser was sent by Widmore, but he does look a little clueless about the island.
 

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Ben was on the manifest, he had a ticket. Isn't that woman that was in the Dharma station the Marshall that had Sayid? Or was it her that went off with the Pilot? I think Ceaser was sent by Widmore, but he does look a little clueless about the island.

Whoops. You're right. Ben is the only of the first-class passengers who didn't disappear in a flash of light.

My bad.
 

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Abaddon is the FBI boss, Broyles, on Fringe - another Abrams show - so you were kinda right on the crossover. =) I totally dig him, he's very creepy cool, on both shows.
 

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Me? I don't know, just not much meaningful to say about this one.

I was happy to find out WHO Abaddon was finally - working for Widmore. He always popped up ominously and we never knew what his story was.

Liked how Ben and Widmore told Locke the EXACT same story from opposite sides. Same as the 'who planted the fake flight 815' stories from before. Ben said Widmore, Widmore said Ben.

Did you catch how Widmore said his people protected the island for 30 years? That would mean Penny had to have been born on the island. Unless he just means that group of people and he wasn't actually with the group for 30 years.
 

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No thoughts on LOST this week? I'm shocked!
I thought it was all kind of by-the-numbers (see above, we KNEW that the O6 would hop aboard) until the last 15 minutes or so when, starting w/Abaddon's assassination, my jaw went to the floor and stayed there.
 

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I was having a hard time keeping up with all the dead becoming undead in the time warps.
 

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Me, too. I made a point of watching Caesar in the opening, moving that Life Magazine. I froze it to see the date (April 1954), figuring that's when we //were//. But no.

I also froze Locke's Jeremy Bentham passport. Issued December 2007. So that, at least, represented real-time.
 

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I liked last night's ep.

It got me thinking about what Hawking said in the church about making the return flight as close to the original as possible.

We saw the plane had crashed and even though it didn't look split in half, Ceasar et ali could be considered the tailies of this flight.

Ceasar could be a cop or something along those lines IMO. He's very observant and inquisitive. That might make him the Anna Lucia of this flight.

The woman that was shadowing Ceasar could be the Mr. Ecko part since Ecko kind of lead the tailies with AL.

That could make Richard's goup udders and Sawyer's group udder udders - or not. ha ha ha

I'm probably way off base but I love trying to guess what's going on.

I'm guessing it was Sun that took off with Frank, but I can't imagine why she didn't 'get off the plane' with Jack, Hurley, Kate...

The Life magazine was dated 1954 and said something about a hydrogen bomb and we know that in 1954 they put an H bomb on lost island.

Did Ben actually kill Locke or just make him unconscious?

But - at least now we know why Locke's obituary read Jeremy Bentham instead of John Locke. A long time coming for that answer!!
 

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Did Ben actually kill Locke or just make him unconscious?

But - at least now we know why Locke's obituary read Jeremy Bentham instead of John Locke. A long time coming for that answer!!
Ben had to have killed him. We saw him swinging from the rafters and he was at a funeral home. But Benn could have orchestrated that easily.
 
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