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They are trying to get a casino here in Fort Wayne, even though they took all the cherry masters out of the bars because it's gambling:confused:. Anyway, our city can't figure out who it wants to be. They just built a new ball field for our ball team (that is only so-so and could very seldom fill the old stadium half full), they want to create a little shopping area around the ball field to 'draw' people. This ball field is in the middle of downtown. The same downtown that has been dying a very slow painful death for about the last 15 years. No ball stadium will help and certainly no casino. They keep comparing themselves to Indy and Cincinnati. Duh...no comparison. And with unemployment being so high, who can afford to go to the ball games, pay for parking, their lousy $1 hot-dogs that they charge $3 for and sodas that are like $2 for 12 ounces of mostly ice, plus shop in their cute little trendy stores? I hear a toilet flushing!!! :mad: Anyway, I sure don't see any benefit to adding casino's to an already stressed city. WTF are they thinking? Thank you for listing, this concludes my rant.
 

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Minnesota only has Indian run Casinos, and they are all over the place. They have been around for years with no issues.

For political and personal reasons, I refuse to go there, and I do like to gamble.

There has been talk of opening a state run Casino to finance the new Minnesota Vikings stadium, would have no problem with that. Last week there was a pole(poll) in the Star Tribune asking if the average person would be ok with a state run Casino to fund State projects, out of 1000 votes 80% said yes. Of course the Indians have poured so much money into our state leaders, this will never happen.
 

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We've had a casino for years.. the good part is the money it generates for the city itself.. part of the proceeds go to the municipal coffer.

Downtown is the one mistake we made.. we DIDN'T build it downtown and we should have.. our downtown is also looking like a ghost town these days.. putting casino there would have been a huge catalyst to driving traffic to the downtown core. It was a serious ball dropping on Council's part.. but hindsight..

Anyway.. it's been nothing but good for our City.. i can't think of a single drawback.. but then, i'm not much of a ganbler.. way too cheap. =)
 

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The Casino's in MN keep all the money in the reservation. The big one near Minneapolis writes every man, woman and child on the reservation a 6 figure check every year. Yet the state of MN still plows and maintains the reservations infrastructure. I am sure they give a lot of money to charities, as to how much your guess is as good as mine.

I guess in the end it is all fair since the White Man took the land in the first place.
 

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I don't want one in my town, but I love having one in the next town over. They get the traffic and the headache and I get to play blackjack 10 minutes from my house.

What's not to love?
 

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The Casino's in MN keep all the money in the reservation. The big one near Minneapolis writes every man, woman and child on the reservation a 6 figure check every year. Yet the state of MN still plows and maintains the reservations infrastructure. I am sure they give a lot of money to charities, as to how much your guess is as good as mine.

I guess in the end it is all fair since the White Man took the land in the first place.
A very wise person said once:

Only about 1/3 of all tribes (roughly 198 or so) have a casino operation of any kind, and of that, only about 66 bring any kind of profit. For the most part the casinos only add a few dollars to the infrastructure allowing the tribe to not be as dependent upon federal grants. That's part of the problem of the misunderstanding. Everyone sees "casinos" and thinks that every tribe gets some massive amount of profit sharing from them. Just a handful such as Mohegans, San Manual, Florida Seminole, Mash Pequots and a few others, bring in the large amounts of money.

The rest of us either don't have casinos or our casino operations are small to the point of just helping out.

Any "privileges" are supposed to be stipulations within treaties for the benefit of the US having taken the land. One of those was supposed to be health care and education but considering the health care is Indian Health Service with the poorest record of taking care of patients and the fact that the education system initially was set up to take Indian children away from their families and beat them into becoming like white people, that wasn't exactly any fair deal now was it?

A lot of whites think that there is an all government paid access to "free" money from the government but the case is, any "money" from the government is what is owed to the tribes in exchange for having land being stolen. The problem is, the US government doesn't want to adhere to any of the treaties it made with any of the tribes.
 

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We've had a casino for years.. the good part is the money it generates for the city itself.. part of the proceeds go to the municipal coffer.
Ottawa's casino (actually, across the river in Gatineau) is provincially-run, which I like. Government-run casinos plow millions back into government coffers, which is a good thing :)
 

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A very wise person said once:

Only about 1/3 of all tribes (roughly 198 or so) have a casino operation of any kind, and of that, only about 66 bring any kind of profit. For the most part the casinos only add a few dollars to the infrastructure allowing the tribe to not be as dependent upon federal grants. That's part of the problem of the misunderstanding. Everyone sees "casinos" and thinks that every tribe gets some massive amount of profit sharing from them. Just a handful such as Mohegans, San Manual, Florida Seminole, Mash Pequots and a few others, bring in the large amounts of money.

The rest of us either don't have casinos or our casino operations are small to the point of just helping out.

Any "privileges" are supposed to be stipulations within treaties for the benefit of the US having taken the land. One of those was supposed to be health care and education but considering the health care is Indian Health Service with the poorest record of taking care of patients and the fact that the education system initially was set up to take Indian children away from their families and beat them into becoming like white people, that wasn't exactly any fair deal now was it?

A lot of whites think that there is an all government paid access to "free" money from the government but the case is, any "money" from the government is what is owed to the tribes in exchange for having land being stolen. The problem is, the US government doesn't want to adhere to any of the treaties it made with any of the tribes.
True as to the big Casino's making all the money as to the little guys have a hard time staying in business. Like I said, the one near Minneapolis makes millions, while the little guys in Northern MN do not make anything, you would think the tribes would band together to help each other out, actually the taxpayers help out those Reservations.

In the State of MN, Indian Reservations are not taxed at the state level, so none of that money goes to the state, which I am fine with, but the big Casino's should at least pitch in to help take care of their own roads and infrastructure on the reservation. There have been numerous times when the state has asked the tribal leaders to pitch in, each time they say No.

This is why I have no problem with a state run Casino, more money goes back into the General Fund. If the Mystic Lake Casino near Minneapolis were smart, they would step up and say that a certain % of their revenue would go to the State as long as you promise to not build a State run Casino. Because we all know the Government will do whatever they want.
 
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