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Is it possible to see HD? when a dog walks?
I'm worried that Bandit has something wrong with his hips bc he is 7 mos old and he can't jump on the bed yet. He also looks like he swings his butt back and forth and really moves his hips when he walks. Is this normal or should I be concerned? TIA!

*I have to video tape it so ya'll can see what I am talking about.

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The vet said his hips dont feel tight and he let her fully extend them without crying but she said that doesn't mean he doesn't have HD. She said to be sure she would have to take X rays but she said she ins't really too concerned right now. She watched him walk from behind and she said most labs have that little hip sway. She said it doesn't look like he is favoring one side or the other. She have us the name of a specialist bc I am still concerned. Oh he also has a cough but she wasn't too concerned with that either bc when she was feeling around his throat it wasn't making him cough. He probably has a cold and it just has to run its course. but we have to keep an eye on it.
 

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Some people claim they can tell, but it's not the most reliable test. You can always get preliminary x-rays done, that's much more reliable. I never noticed anything wrong with the way Jes walks and he never had any pain, no problems jumping up on the bed, running to play fetch, everything was normal. Every now and then, though, I did hear some popping so I had his hips x-rayed and it did show a mild case of hip dysplasia. Moral of the story, some dogs that act normal may not have great hips while and I've heard people worried about their dog's gait find out that the hips are great.
 

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My Ruby sways a lot when she walks, she's got a little waddle in her step. She has OFA excellent hips.

I was told you can put nail polish on their nails and see how evenly it wears off, not sure if that works or not.
 

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hips swaying is usually present in dogs with HD, but it can also be present in dogs with no HD. In other words, they may say 90% of dogs with HD display swaying hips and 25% of dogs with normal hips show signs of hip swaying. I MADE THOSE NUMBERS UP..the point is, any dog can show signs of it.

As for the reluctance to jump on the bed - Are you sure you want that? Does he or can he jump on other things with any problem.

I am nuts about this and decided to get prelim OFA films and Pennhip done. All came back perfect!
 

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I have the opposite perspective on it. My first lab Bear waddled and always did what obedience people call a puppy or sloppy sit- he stuck one hip (always the same hip) out when he sat. He eventually showed a reluctance to jump up on things as well and was diagnosed with HD.

Same with Gabby, my 1o month old yellow female. She waddles, does the puppy sit and limps after hard exercise.

There is no hard and fast way to tell except with x-rays.

Other questions to consider though, are:

-does the way he walk change after hard exercise? Exercise on hard surfaces versus on soft? (I saw a noticeable diff. in Gabby).
- Was the reluctance to jump something that developed later or was it always there? (you may have just not had a jumper).
- have the vet do a flex test
- is he stiff when he gets up/ slow to rise?
 

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gabbys mom said:
I have the opposite perspective on it. My first lab Bear waddled and always did what obedience people call a puppy or sloppy sit- he stuck one hip (always the same hip) out when he sat. He eventually showed a reluctance to jump up on things as well and was diagnosed with HD.

Same with Gabby, my 1o month old yellow female. She waddles, does the puppy sit and limps after hard exercise.

There is no hard and fast way to tell except with x-rays.

Other questions to consider though, are:

-does the way he walk change after hard exercise? Exercise on hard surfaces versus on soft? (I saw a noticeable diff. in Gabby).
- Was the reluctance to jump something that developed later or was it always there? (you may have just not had a jumper).
- have the vet do a flex test
- is he stiff when he gets up/ slow to rise?
He is only 7 mos old and he is very lazy, I guess some poeple would say that I am lucky bc I dont have a huper puppy 24/7 but I think there may be something wrong. He is playful alot of times but somedays he will be in his kennel for abt 6 hrs and when he comes out he just lays down on the floor. The past few weeks though he has been really lazy but I think its bc he doesn't feel well (he has allergies and the pollen isn't helping). The only time he gets up slow is when he comes out of his kennel, he can get up on the sofa but he doesn't jump up he puts his front paws up and then one back leg at a time. When he wants on the bed he puts his front paws up and just looks at me like "pick me up please", Outside he runs and jumps and his walk never changes its always that hip sway all the time. We have a vet appt this week so I'll talk to her abt it. Thanks.
 

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I would definitely talk to the vet about it. Our first lab, Georgia, had very severe HD. It was quite obvious in her walk, but being first time lab owners we didn't know the difference...she was diagnosed at 9 months when we mentioned her sway to the vet at a friends prodding. She showed no signs of pain and did not jump on people....things that we took to be a "good dog".

Better to be safe than sorry, talk to the vet.
 

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I moved his appt up to tonight, Thanks for the replies!
 

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just be careful, if you leave the vet with any doubt, go see a specialist and even ask you vet about seeing one when you are there. If they discourage it, I would run for the hills... The earlier you discover anything - its always better. To be honest, our regular vets are far, very far from experts on the subject and taking good othropedic radiogrpahs. The only way to tell for sure is to do xrays and the positioning is very important, in fact, critical. You will read many stories about our regualar vets mis diagnosing hip issues on this message bored.

Good Luck
 

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Went to the vet......see update.
 

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Not jumping up on the bed really isn't an indicator of anything. Grace refuses to jump on the bed. She CAN, we've seen her do it on the guest room bed and when we've been on vacation, but she won't jump on the master bed.
 

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Not jumping up on the bed really isn't an indicator of anything. Grace refuses to jump on the bed. She CAN, we've seen her do it on the guest room bed and when we've been on vacation, but she won't jump on the master bed.
Well its not just the bed, he hesitates when he gets to the stairs as well, I dont know, he may just be scared of them.
 

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Be careful about having your vet flex joints on puppies. The joints are lax because they haven't grown into them yet. You don't want to hurt him, so keep flexation to a minimum. Films are the ONLY way to determine whether there is a problem or not in a young dog. My Owee was diagnosed at 13 months and even then, was FILMS not palpation.

You don't want to do more harm then good with positioning.
 

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luvmydogz2much said:
Be careful about having your vet flex joints on puppies. The joints are lax because they haven't grown into them yet. You don't want to hurt him, so keep flexation to a minimum. Films are the ONLY way to determine whether there is a problem or not in a young dog. My Owee was diagnosed at 13 months and even then, was FILMS not palpation.

You don't want to do more harm then good with positioning.
Okay thanks, I'll know that for our next visit. I think Im gonna call the speacialist.
 
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