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This came across one of my email lists and I wanted to pass it along.



This is something all dog owners should know. Even with the smallest breeds
need to remember never to give dogs iced or very cold water.

This was posted on another board with permission to cross post in the hopes
of saving another dog from having to go through this awful experience.

After showing we went back to our site/set up and got the dogs in their
crates to cool off. After being back about 30min. I noticed **** was low on
water. I took a hand full of ice from my cooler and put it in his bucket
with more water. (Note: I use a small Playmate cooler at ringside with ice
water in it also. Have for over 15 years now) I use small 2qt. buckets in my
crates. He had maybe ½ a bucket when I placed him in his crate after coming
back from the ring. We all then started to get all the dogs Ex'ed and food
ready for them.

I have an 18 foot trailer with AC and set up, as a rolling kennel it fits 7-
42" crates, and MY express Van holds 1- 48", 1- 42", and 3- 36", crates. All
the crates in the van have 24 " box fans over them. I had **** in his 48'
crate in the van because that is the place he loves to be. He loves to be
able to see everyone and everything. After checking the dogs and thinking
they were cooled off enough we fed everyone. As we were walking around
removing the feed dishes from the crates, one of my friends stated that ****
seamed like he was choking. I went over and checked on him and he was dry
heaving and was drooling. I got him out of the crate to check him over and
noticed he had not eaten. He was in some distress. I checked him over from
head to toe and did not notice anything. I walked him around for about a
min. when I noticed that he was starting to Bloat. I did everything I was
taught to do in this case. I was not able to get him to burp, and we gave
him Phasezime.

We jumped on the golf cart to take him down to the Show vet to find out that
he did not have a bloat kit, He referred us to the clinic that was to be on
call, but we found out that the clinic was closed. After finding another
clinic that was open we rushed **** to that one. We called ahead and let
them know that we were on our way. They were set up and waiting for us and
they got **** stabilized very quickly. After **** was stable and out of
distress we transported **** to AVREC where he went into surgery to make
sure no damage was done to any of his vital organs. I am very happy to say
that **** is doing great, there was no damage to any vital organs, and he
still loves his food.

In surgery the doctor found that ***** stomach was in its normal anatomic
position. The Doctor and I went over the events of what happened up to the
point of **** Bloating. When I told him about the ice water he asked why I
gave him ice water, and have I always done this. I told him my history
behind this practice and his reply was "I have been very lucky for the past
15 years." The ice water I gave **** caused violent Muscle spasm in his
stomach which caused the bloating. Even though I figured his temp was down
enough to feed, and give him this ice water his internal temp was still
high. Dr. Vogf stated that giving dog's ice to chew or ice water is a big
NO, NO; there should be no reason for them to have ice/ice water. Normal
water (room Temp.), or cooling with cold towels on the inter thigh, is the
best way to help cool a dog. How Dr. Vogf explained it to me was like this:
If you, as a person fall into a frozen lake what happens to our muscles?
Think about that, then compare that to your dog's stomach.

I felt the need to share this with everyone, in the hopes that some may
learn from what I went through, I do not wish this on anyone. **** is home
now doing fine. He does not like the fact that he has to be walked on lead
in the yard to keep him from running. He hates not being able to go out and
rough house with the others, but is doing great. So please if you do use ice
and ice water, beware as what could happen.
 

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Thanks Laura.
 

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Thanks for that information. I passed it on to my DockDog club members as we are having a competition here in Houston this weekend and the heat index expected in the 105 range.
I guess it would be OK to pour cold water over their heads, however, like I plan to do to myself.:D
 

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Wow, that's good to know. Now I'm wondering about the homemade doggie ice cream I give Sundance every night in a Kong.

Maybe it has to be a substantial amount of coldness hitting their stomach all at once? It takes Sunny about 5 minutes to consume his treat. I'll have to look more into this.
 

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That is brand new information (to me). I've been giving my dogs, including Dozer, ice water for years and years.

I give Dozer ice cubes as treats as well. They're the only treat he gets and he loves them. He only gets one or two at a time though ... I wonder if that is a problem as well.
 

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I give Dozer ice cubes as treats as well. They're the only treat he gets and he loves them. He only gets one or two at a time though ... I wonder if that is a problem as well.
Freckles also loves an ice cube treat but Duke just patooeys them out when I give him one.
From reading the article I believe the problem can occur when you give an overheated dog a large volume of very cold water to drink. The article said that even though the dog seemed to have cooled off his internal temp was still high.
 

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Oh My Laura I'm glad the poor pup is ok! I give Ziggy ice cubes to help with teething pain, do you think as long as he is not overheated (or hot) it is ok to do so?
 

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Good information, also a lot of folks don't know, you should never give ice water to an over heated human either. As most of you know I do living history events, often in very hot weather where I spend hours around a hot campfire. Also I have been lucky enough to have two different guys who help me who are former Navy Corpsman who served with the Marines and trained at 29 Palms. I have learned a lot from these two guys with them keeping an eye on me and others.

Ice cold drinks will do the same to a human that is going into heat stress, they often vomit a few minutes after drinking something ice cold, I have seen it when someone tried it.

Also when you drink something that cold it lowers the temp in the esphagus and stomach below where the body will tolerate it, hench the body accually works harder to raise these temps back up.

I never dink anything cold when doing this till late in the evening after I've cooled down and had a shower and am relaxing.

And no I will not takeRowdy out and subject him to that kind of heat, he can stay home with Rita in the air condioning.
 

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Holy crap! I'm so glad the dog is okay.

Will one ice cube hurt a dog? The boys love ice cubes, and we usually give them each one any time one of us fixes something with ice. They are not hot, just in the house, and they chew them up.
 

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Thanks for posting this.

I've often given Puff a few pieces of ice from my Costco/Sam's Club soft drink cups but never when she's been over-heated. But this is VERY good to know AND remember.

 

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Many thanks for this info- I'm guilty of putting ice in Morgans water to make it cold for him when it's hot outside after we walk thinking it would cool hm down.
 

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An ice cube once in awhile will not do this, I don't think. It's the overheated part that you need to be cautious about.
 

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Great post, Laura. Good information for those that don't know or forgot.

Just this past week, someone came into the DP carrying a couple gallon jugs of water for the dogs. I happened to be close when they dumped one of them into a bowl and heard the ice clinking. I stepped over and told them the dogs should not be allowed at that cold water. He started telling me that it was so hot out the dogs would enjoy a cold drink. I told him about bloat while several others were listening. No one else there had ever heard about it. The bowl came up and the two containers got set out in the sun.

I hope that I helped out a couple dogs that day, and would never have known if it wasn't for information posted on JL.
 

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Great post, Laura. Good information for those that don't know or forgot.

Just this past week, someone came into the DP carrying a couple gallon jugs of water for the dogs. I happened to be close when they dumped one of them into a bowl and heard the ice clinking. I stepped over and told them the dogs should not be allowed at that cold water. He started telling me that it was so hot out the dogs would enjoy a cold drink. I told him about bloat while several others were listening. No one else there had ever heard about it. The bowl came up and the two containers got set out in the sun.

I hope that I helped out a couple dogs that day, and would never have known if it wasn't for information posted on JL.
Good for you, Ed!
 
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