Ohhhhh - I was already to blast into this one until I saw it was you - Mapes! You get it - I wonder how many other people see the irony in this sudden concern for "citizen rights"? That was almost the worst thing that I thought the Bush adminstration did - not even slowly, just blatently and under the name of "protecting us" went in and wiretapped, read library records, tortured people - but don't worry folks, if you weren't doing anything "wrong" you would be OK- right? I would imagine that the FBI always tries to check stuff like this out - anybody remember the 60's? That's why it IS important to protect our private rights as citizens, and not just when it is convenient for us, or we believe, or don't believe in the cause. Cuz you'll never know who they might decide the "bad guy" is - it might be you next.This doesn't surprise me at all. In fact, I bet they are going even further than this. I think they are trying to get access to private citizen's library records and wiretapping phones without a warrant.
Cool! (the environmental activist part) - you'll have to tell me more - SU and I have never been activists, but we've always been environmentalists.This has been going on for a long time. My husband was an active environmentalist for years (in the 80's mostly)and as soon as I met him my phone was wiretapped. It was an interesting experience.
who GAS? this has been going on for years....doesn't bother me. Just like giving my finger print for my driver's license didn't bother me. If you have nothing to hide; what's the big deal? Now if they start peeking at my celluite when I'm in the shower...THAT I will GAS about.
I was at a few of these myself. I always thought they were there to protect us from the Nazis!While I was a student at WSU (1986-90), we had a march to protest the Aryan Nations headquartered at Hayden Lake, Idaho. The FBI were all over the place watching the crowd. This was the era of Reagan and Bush, so it didn't really surprise anybody. Funny they were concerned about a bunch of students protesting a group of inbred neo-Nazis.
The big deal is the constitution.who GAS? this has been going on for years....doesn't bother me. Just like giving my finger print for my driver's license didn't bother me. If you have nothing to hide; what's the big deal? Now if they start peeking at my celluite when I'm in the shower...THAT I will GAS about.
yesThe big deal is the constitution.
for this reason we have the constitutionI absolutely believe in trying to protect our personal information rights as citizens - and not just when it doen'st affect me.