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    Defaulttreat or no treat?

    Ok, so I am looking for a training class for my girls.
    I found this place that offer "off leash" training.
    I talked to the trainer, and I liked what he was explaining to me, but
    he believes in "no treat" training.
    My girls are very much food motivated.
    I will go take a look at one of his class before I commit, but
    Do you believe in "no treat" training??


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    luke from georgia is offline Senior Member
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    DefaultRe: treat or no treat?

    because it works for us, we use food rewards along with other things like toys and getting to go for a walk, a ride, to the dog park, etc. we don't use treats ALL the time, but it is very helpful in learning new skills or reinforcing behaviors i want repeated. using treats for training may not work for everyone.

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    If he doesn't use food rewards, how does he motivate the dogs? And if it's off-leash, then how does he correct? With sufficient motivation, you don't necessarily need to use physical correction, but without treats I'm not sure what you'd use to motivate an off-leash dog in a highly stimulating environment. You can use toys, tugging, etc., but those aren't sufficient for some dogs. I would observe a class. Let us know what it's like; I'm genuinely curious!

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    DefaultRe: treat or no treat?

    Because you have already had issues involving possessiveness I would give the no-treat system a chance.
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    I'd observe a class, and ask the same questions as Nathan. Most of the 'off leash' classes I've seen advertised (Fred Hassen, especially) are based around shock collars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kaytris
    I'd observe a class, and ask the same questions as Nathan. Most of the 'off leash' classes I've seen advertised (Fred Hassen, especially) are based around shock collars.
    That's exactly what I was thinking. Either that or magic.

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    DefaultRe: treat or no treat?

    Quote Originally Posted by theoconbrio
    Quote Originally Posted by kaytris
    I'd observe a class, and ask the same questions as Nathan. Most of the 'off leash' classes I've seen advertised (Fred Hassen, especially) are based around shock collars.
    That's exactly what I was thinking. Either that or magic.
    Or sheer repetition. A non-treat trained dog must be VERY reliable before going off-leash. And although there's not a 100% guarantee (is there ever with a dog), it IS possible to do. I reward/correct vocally, and it seems to work well....

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    DefaultRe: treat or no treat?

    I FAR prefer treats.

    Get a copy of Donalson's "Culture Clash" -- that's mainstream learning principles.
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    DefaultRe: treat or no treat?

    Thank you everyone for your input. This class is almost twice as much in cost
    compare to other classes. I will go take a look at it to see what is like.
    He said only reward he gives is Love. That is great, if it works for my girls. ???

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    He said only reward he gives is Love.
    If your dogs have been treat trained you may have a hard time persuading them to accept "love" as a reward. I know that my girl Maisy would think I was nuts if her only reward was "love"!!

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