I'm currently looking at Petsafe and Aetertek. I'm not looking to break the bank, and it's mainly for behavior training, not hunting training. Thanks in advance.
do you need to go down the shock collar route for training? what other methods have you tried?
personally i like to try positive re-enforcement training which can sometimes take longer but if persistent with it you get good results. What areas of the behavior was the collar aimed to work on? i.e lead pulling? if you give a bit more info people may be able to offer more suggestions to your problems
what i did when my pup was mouthing and biting during play was if she mouthed to hard i would scream "OUCH" and leave the room for a few minutes. When i returned i would resume and if the mouthing happened again i would repeat. eventually by ignoring other than saying ouch and praising all the behavior i wanted she got the picture. it does take time, however, with dominance training like a shock collar etc it could swing either way. However that is just my opinion. Do you take you pup to any obedience classes?
please do not chase a dog then make them submit. you are creating a very very negative relationship with your dog.
please forget the ecollar and get a trainer. a positive based trainer. either enroll in an obedience class or private trainer. a shock collar is a sophisticated tool and YOU need training before the collar goes near your dog. you do NOT just put it on and hit the button, you must train the dog.
if he plays too rough with your son stop the play (or rather dont start it).
your son should partiicpate in the training to whatever level his age can allow. sounds like your son is just another puppy to your dog. they should only play approproately. no chasing no wrestling.
if the puppy runs away from you so much it is a sign something has gone wrong in your relationship. that needs to change now. do not use harsh corrections with the dog and scare them. teach your child appropriate interactions with the puppy (stop wrestling and chasing).
I own a black lab, he is on an agility, trick/precision obedience team, that performs in front of hundreds, sometimes thousands of people. He is highly trained with whistle re-call as well. I could go on and on about his accomplishments, but I'll get right to the point. E-collars are for lazy, irresponsible people. E-collars are designed for dogs in the field...not behaviour modification. By using an e-collar for what you described is simply irresponsible and lazy.
Call me rude, call me mean, I couldn't care less. E-Collars are tools, for experienced handlers and experienced trainers...any professional would completely agree with everything I've just said. You need to teach your dog some simple obedience. By the sounds of it, you are going to put the collar onto your poor dog, and as soon as he does something you don't like, zap him/her. Unfortunately, your dog may stop the behaviour in the moment, but they have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT THEY DID WRONG.
Having a dog that competes and shows in obedience, I can tell you the number one, most important things your dog has to have for their owner to be successful. RESPECT, and TRUST. Using an e-collar as you have described above is going to get you no where in the long run.
NOW, if you want to talk about how to train a lovely, well behaved OBEDIENT, off lead dog, I would be more than happy to give you some pointer, and answer and question you have.
the best help is a trainer that can show you in person! obedience classes and/or a few at home sessions would do your family a great deal of help.