this might seem like a weird post, but i just wanted to post an outline of where we are at with our 9 week old choc lab Finlay.
He comes when called (most of the time!)
Sit, Lie down, Touch (nose to human palm gently) all
Bedtime- (60% goes into his crate when asked)
He sits and waits for his food until given the release command 'OK'
He goes potty on his training pads (We will be training him outside when he has had all of his jabs- we live in a flat!)
General Outline of day:
This is our very rough schedule which we make notes as we go to try and develop him on a weekly basis- we adapt the plan every 3 days depending on what we think his needs are... (obviously if he is sleeping- we let him sleep!)
7:00/7:30AM Wake up and out of crate.
8:10-8:30AM TRAINING 1
Collar and Lead Training/Walk
8:30-9:30AM Free independent time.
In Pen. No interaction/ only positive encouragement.
9:30A-10:00AM TRAINING 2
10:00-11:15 Chill out/ independent time Move into crate if he falls asleep outside
11:15-11:45AM TRAINING 3 Takes Place in Pen.
11:45-12:15 Chill out /independent time If falling asleep- put him in Crate/DEN Cue: Den/Bedtime
12:15-1:00PM Chill Out /Independent Time /Play Encourage independence -If falling Asleep put him in Den/ Crate
1:05pm-2pm Training 4 Mouthing training- playtime.
2:05pm-2:30pm Independent time Move into Den/ Crate if napping.
2:30-3:00pm Continue Napping or Training 5 Trainers Choice
3:00-4pm Independent Time Focusing on independent play and being- moving away if he comes to you.
To the crate if he sleeps with door open. With Den Shut.
4:00-4:30pm Cuddle play Boisterous and full on contact. Using Nylabone to transfer mouthing.
4:30pm-6:00pm Quiet time in Den/ Crate Open crate door, put him in there with toy. Keep encouraging him to go in there to play .
6:00- 7:00 Play Focusing on independent play and being- moving away if he comes to you. Out of Den/Crate
7:30- Water away
7:15-8:00pm Training 5 Trainers Choice
8:30-9:00PM Focusing on independent Quiet time Try not to encourage interaction ‘
9:00pm-10:00PM Playtime- crossing into Quiet time. And cuddles. Including independent toilet visits….
10:00pm- 11:45PMQuiet time/Sleep prep out of cage- but leave the door open…. If he goes in no worries!
11:45PM-2AM Bedtime Sleep 1 In crate with door closed
2:00AM Toilet break
2:00AM-4:00AM Bedtime Sleep
4:00AM Toilet Break
4:00AM- 6:00AM Bedtime Sleep in Crate
6:00AM Toilet Break
6AM-7:30 AM Bed time Sleep
We are still letting him mouth us- but only gently- when there is any pain we do the yelp and walk away- or yelp but stay with him and make eye contact depending on the Severity of the bite. once he has calmed we always return to him to fuss him. ocasionally have a strong bite- but he knows when its too hard now- as he looks all sorry!
My main concern at the moment is this. We have recently introduced his puppy pen- and did some training yesterday to encourage independence in his pen. We have been at home the majority of the time since we have had him- but need to start encouraging to be independent- for say an hour while we nip out to do jobs. yesterday during training we got him to play/wait/be in his pen without whining for 3 minutes! but it took us about an hour to get to this level. Does anyone have any tips on developing him more in this area?
you can see from the schedule about how we have crate trained him so far. but it is getting more frequent now that he sleeps from 11:45- 4:30 without needing a toilet break! The plan is that on Friday we will go all night in the crate- now that he is accustomed to his crate and is happy in there. one question- when we leave him all night (and ignore the crying) do i check up on him? if he messes his crate- do i leave him in it or clean it and return him to it? what are peoples experience of this?
He is quite happy to sleep in the car on journeys up to an hour now and he has met lots of people. He has met a beagle puppy- got very over excited and i got worried that he was to aggressive? how do i know if i should stop play? He is going to his first puppy party tonight.... so am a bit apprehensive about this... but also excited! He is a very confident dog! and loves to play!
Apologies for the ESSAY!
As i say- this is our first puppy- we have done lots of research- but it would just be good to know how everyone feels about the above. I appreciate some people might think the schedule is a bit excessive- but i want to stress that we dont follow this with a stop watch! its simply to try and give him a structure to follow - for example- the independent time actually stops me fussing him- because he's too cute!
Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated!
Don't over think it.
And you should be taking the dog OUTSIDE for potty now. As long as it has the shots appropriate for its age right now, it will be fine. You want to encourage the right habits now. Having it pee inside now and then taking it out later will only make it harder for you.
I agree with not using potty pads. Unless you have had an outbreak of parvo where you live (your apartment building) it's not really risky for him to go outdoors to potty. If you accustom your puppy to peeing indoors it will be MUCH harder to unteach this. I assume vaccinations will be completed at 16 weeks? The amount of urine a 4 month old Lab puppy can produce is significant - so you really don't want him peeing indoors that long.
Sharon, Blaise and Diesel.
I am not sure where you are located. Normally I don't think its a good idea to confuse a puppy with pads. But it has been on our news that there has been a parvo increase in Oregon. You can have a titer test to see how his immunizations are for this. At 9 weeks, he has only prob had his first puppy shot. Often the first one gets killed off by the immunities in the pup from its mother. If he's had his second vaccine, the effects don't build up for about 10 days. I can see why you are cautious. If you live where you don't have a safe, fenced place, I can see the need for the pads. We love pictures and look forward to yours!
Sophie DOB 04/13/2011 6 mo
Sophie 15 months, with Skye
I'm suspecting UK given the spelling and word choices.
Sharon, Blaise and Diesel.
I check on our 9 week old if he cry's, he will make some noise/cry if he needs to go potty or if we miss the initial cry and he messes the crate he will cry a higher pitched whine. We clean, take out and return to crate. We never correct "Lucic" for our mistakes to take him out on time.
We pick his water up at 6:00-7:00p, He for the most part goes from 11:00p until I get up at 4:30a without having to go.
Last edited by EpicStageFright; 11-01-2012 at 05:03 AM.
I am sorry, I have to admit I did not read your entire post! I stopped when I got to "This is our very rough schedule which we make notes as we go to try and develop him on a weekly basis- we adapt the plan every 3 days depending on what we think his needs are...
Had to LOL, that was me to a "T" when I got Diesel. I had lists, I had schedules - written on paper and saved on my phone - the :05 and :15 past the hour time slots. Every waking minute of his day was plotted out whether it meshed with what I wanted or needed or not. I had each week of his development - expected and actual - on my calendar to ensure he was turning out as he should according to the umpteen books about Labs. Then I realized I had a PUPPY! and the amount of actual hands-on work superceded the list making and monitoring of said lists.
I admire the good intentions and who knows, maybe you will keep up with it -- just enjoy your puppy! As LuvBrown said, do not over think it... they grow up way too fast and you would hate to miss anything because of your focus on to-the-minute schedules!
Just quickly, saw reference to puppy pee pads... don't bother - I'm sure all the reasons why have already been addressed!
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Great all of your feedback is really helpful! thank you for taking the time!
We live in Northamptonshire in the UK- so no parvo outbreak as such- but no fenced area- so we will be potty training as soon as possible. prob from next week!
He cant seem to settle in his pen- really infuriating me now- can only leave him for like 15 minutes without him going mad crying! Any suggestions. Ive tired kongs and all that, but so far- nothing seems to be working!
Charlie (foster) and Rocky
If you know you need to leave, plan a play session before hand so that you can put the TIRED puppy in the pen when you go.