How many of you use harnesses, Gentle Leaders or training/prong collars on your younger labs?
May 17, 1998 - May 20, 2009
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Prong collars on both of them. I used a GL successfully with a prior dog.
Sharon, Blaise and Diesel.
While many people use them, I'm afraid of causing throat damage with a prong collar so I've never used one.
I strongly disrecommend using a head halter such as the Gentle Leader or other brands for 2 reasons.
#1 -- most dogs HATE the over the snout strap and a few detest it so much that they continually paw at it, trying to get it off; walking is impossible in the face of such activity. A few dogs accept it without protests. My Puff was in between: she didn't like it but we reached an understanding that I'd leave it loose enough so I could slip it off her muzzle as long as she behaved but I'd slip it back on if she needed more control. That's the way we mainly used it.
#2 -- Despite mainly using the GL head halter that way, within a few months the color of Puff' fur under where the over-the-muzzle strap went began aging, turning white. (See siggy pix below)
We stopped using it and went to Gentle Leader's "Easy Walk" harness. MUCH better, MUCH more tolerable. Its only problem is it will take some trial and error adjusting and readjusting over a week or so before you get it to the best possible fit.
Last edited by Bob Pr.; 01-20-2010 at 01:22 PM. Reason: italicize, underline, bold "did" in disrecommend
Puff [YF, AKC field line (from competing HT/FT breeder) 62 lbs, dob: 8-'01]
Bess [BF, AKC bench line (from competing show breeder) 55 lbs., 1967-1981] "Poor Bess, the Wonder Dog":
I used a prong for about two weeks. I trained Rider off of it quickly. Rookie never needed one.
Please remember they are TRAINING collars...not fixes for pulling dogs. A dog should be able to walk nicely on a leash without a training collar if properly trained.
Dani, Rider & Rookie
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we use sensation and easy walk harnesses here - LOVE them ..
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Easy Walk user here.
Miko (April 6, 2009), CGC
I have used a choke, pinch, micro pinch, flat buckle, regular harness and E-collar. I trained obedience first with a choke then pinch and then micro pinch. Once I started training field with an E-collar I started training everything with an E-collar. Tracking still requires a harness. Obedience and agility trials and AKC events I use a choke. Walks in general I use a choke (its the easiest to pt on and off). anytime we are in a field we use an E-collar. At home Amber just goes naked.
She is trained to heel on a loose leash so there is no pulling. I hate dogs that pull on lead! except for tracking ..lol
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