It started out with Murray being POd about me taking Essy to handling class on Sat am. Everyone was home with him though so I thought everything would be ok. Never underestimate a POd Lab. When I got home, I took Murray and Essy to Petco to get their pictures taken then to the park to play and burn off some steam. Then I took the dogs home and we left them to go eat lunch and run errands. I crated Essy and I put up the gate to keep Murray out of the kitchen. We arrived home to find my kitchen destroyed. Murray had knocked down the gate, gotten into the garbage, strewn it all over the house, AND ate 8 chicken breast bones that were left in the garbage (donít even get me started on that one). With the crappy luck Iíve been having recently Iíve been watching and waiting for the problems to begin since it's only a matter of time.
As bad as that was, my weekend gets worseÖmuch worse.
I went to the mailbox and I saw that I finally received Essyís OFA results (4 weeks later). Her hips OFAd excellent, her left elbow passed, her right elbow is Grade 1 dysplasia (OCD/DJD). She passed her prelims so this is most likely injury related and most likely attributed to her borderline out of control way of traversing of the stairs. What the hell am I going to do now? She is supposed to be Meghanís agility dog. She wonít be able to do agility now. Meghan has worked so hard to get Essy ready to compete and they are just now getting to a point where they can and this happens. I donít know what Iím going to do. I have a kid that wants to compete and a dog that canít. No way in hell will my SU allow us to get a 3rd dog and I really wouldnít want to start back at square 1 with another dog anyway. I never should have gotten Meghan started in this. I love obedience and Essy can probably still do that but Meghan prefers agility. She isnít going to be happy doing obedience and rally. They have an agility trial (NADAC special classes) this weekend and Iím going to let them do it. It will be their last time competing. :'(
Lydia, I have known a lot of dogs with bad hips and elbows who have successfully comepted. I surgery an option? I am so sorry! Labs can and are sooooooooo crazed at times.
As for Murray and the kitchen--Murray, Murray, Murray! Were the chicken bones cooked or raw. If raw they won't be a problem at all.
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Thats IS really crappy - but check it out with the vet first. Maybe they can still do competing at some level. I'm sorry about your bad weekend :-\
I agree with patm ask the vet first. Im sorry you had a crappy weekend.
Bandit ate chicken bones once, it was like 7 chicken wings sauce and all.
Unfortunately these were cooked chicken bones. > I mentioned this to a friend and she said her dog did the same thing (ate cooked chicken bones). Her vet said if there was going to be a problem it would have happened within the first 24 hrs. Her vet also said that legs seem to cause more issues than the breast bones. I so hope this is true. Her vet also said we probably won't find any remenants of the bones in the poo. I really wish I had know that earlier as I have been searching all weekend. : :-X I'm searching for vets/ER vets just in case because we will be out of town this weekend for the agility trial and with my recent luck, if something is going to happen, it will happen when I'm not near my own vet.
I'm still trying to digest the meaning of the OFA results. I also know people who compete with their dysplastic dogs but that is usually hips, not elbows to my knowledge. I worry about the strain of jumping on bad elbows. I picture the dog jumping then having the leg collapse under them. :-\ The classes Essy is entered in this weekend won't have jumps so I feel OK letting them compete in those classes for now. I don't know if surgery is an option but I plan to find an orthopedic specialist to have him assess Essy completely. I don't want to make any decisions until that time.
NADAC has lower jump heights than most, and if you're allowed to do the NADAC version of "preferred" she may not have to jump high at all. Like when a puppy is growing and you don't jump above the height of their elbows, if you could do something similar with Essy it might work. Exercise and athleticism would help her to keep the leg from collapsing by building greater muscle mass around the joint. Unless it's really severe dysplasia it probably won't slow her down for several years (this is just what I hear from other people with dogs and joint issues).
Zeke RN, agility miscreant and CGC failure
Just found this info on Essy's elbow issues:
Surgery is indicated to remove the pieces of cartilage, smooth both
the top of the joint and the cartilage to stimulate new growth without
flaps or chips. Recovery and prognosis are generally very good; there
are many cases of dogs who had this surgery and went on to compete in
obedience and agility once completely recovered. However, no matter
how sucessful the surgery, the dog should not be bred if a hereditary
cause is suspected.
The Degenerative joint disease still poses a problem though :-\ (although there seems to be some amount of evidence that joint supplements help to slow the process)
Zeke RN, agility miscreant and CGC failure
I am so sorry. As someone who deals with bilateral ED every day, I can really feel your pain at the news and the prospects. I hope an ortho vet can help you find some answers. I assume that since the OFA results were a surprise to you that Essy does not limp, which is good news. It probably means that there are no fragments in her elbow. Please let us know what the ortho vet recommends.
Essy does not limp or ever seem to be stiff/sore/swollen so hopefully that is good news in that we caught this early.
She is already jumping the lowest height possible in NADAC. She is in the jr handler program with my daughter so 16" is the max height allowed for jrs (she would jump 20" for regular classes but could still jump 16" if she did the skilled category). She also jumps 16" Preferred for AKC (vs 20").
Tatyana I may be contacting you as I learn more about this since you are a veteran.
I would have that elbow re-xrayed. It could be anything... bad film even.
I'd also put her on glucosamine supplements if you haven't.
And I'd let your daughter compete with her as long as Essy is enjoying it.
It's always been my philosophy to let a dog be a dog and to have fun. When and IF something goes awry, you can fix it and retire the dog.
There are many, many, many dogs competing successfully in agility with hip and elbow and even back problems. Not to mention knees... did I mentions knees.... Magnum is doing beautifully since her surgery and I just let her play, run, jump to her hearts content. If she blows something else out, we'll decide then what to do. Gotta let a dog be a dog.