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    Samsmommy is offline Junior Member
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    Hello. I am new to this forum. I belong to another lab forum, but have not found them to be very open to new people. Anyway, I have a 14 y/o black lab, who has had skin problems from the day we got him about 3 years ago. We adopted him from a shelter so unfortunatly we do not have any of his past history. Since we got him we have been dealing with itchy skin, hair falling out, etc, usually from the beginning of the spring until it gets cold outside. Usually I take him to vet when it gets bad and she will put him on a course of prednisone and antibiotics, which will usually work for about a month or so. However this year we left him with my mother in law for 2 weeks while we were on vacation, and when we returned he now has very irritated areas between his legs and on his butt, both with significant hair loss. I took him to the vet again last week, only this time she said she thinks it is seasonal allergies, and that she is reluctant to put him on Prednisone again, because of his age, and the amount of times he has been on it previously. That we should try Benadryl, and see if that will get him through until the cooler weather comes. Well we have been giving him the benadryl but it does not seem to be helping at all. He is still scratching and biting, all day and night. He is up most of the night, and so are we. Is there anything else that anyone has used that would soothe him. We are at our wits end. I am half tempted to order the Prednsione on the internet, and hope that my vet will ok it when they call for the prescription. I just hate seeing him so miserable. He is a very old dog and only has a few years left, I do not want him to spend them itching and scratching miserably.

    Thank you for any help.

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    Hi Samsmommy! Welcome to the forum!

    I feel your anguish, I've got an itchy one too, though it sounds like your Sam is worse. I find that wiping Henry down completely with a damp cloth every time when he comes in from outside, as well as daily brushing helps (gets the dead hair out and redistributes the oils in his skin).

    We also sought the help of a holistic vet (because I didn't want to go the steroid route if I didn't have to yet) and he is on some chinese herbs that seem to curb most of the scratching/licking/chewing. He also gave us an oil to put on Henry once a week (Dermoscent) that is supposed to improve the lipid layer in his skin. He seems to be doing well with that.

    Good luck, I hope you can find Sam some relief soon!




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    What do you feed? Do you have a flea problem? Has your dog's thyroid level ever been checked?
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    DefaultRe: Itchy...Please help

    Thanks for your interest in helping us. Believe me any advise is more than welcome at this point.

    As for your questions. He is on a lamb and rice diet. I have not seen any fleas, but just in case I did give him a flea bath last weekend, which did nothing. He did have his thyroid checked about a year ago along with a complete senior blood panel, which showed that everything was fine.

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    DefaultRe: Itchy...Please help

    Have you been for allergy testing?

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    I suggest taking him to the vet for skin scraping.

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    If it were me, I'd take him to a university School/College of VetMed Teaching Hospital where they have specialists and can do definitive tests.

    Since you live in Richmond, VA, you're somewhat in driving distance of 3 such places, Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, VA, NC State in Raleigh, NC, and the U of Penn in Philadelphia.

    The first two require referral by your vet; I think at the U Penn you can self-refer but I think it would be advisable to consult with them first and get all pertinent records from your vet or have her send them.

    I don't know the reputation of the first two; the UPenn CVM's TH is regarded as world class and it's where I'd choose to go. (E.g., it's the place that the race horse Barbaro was taken and treated.)

    This link gives locations of all university SVM/CVMs in the US and Canada. Clicking on anyone will give the website, clinic hours, appointment procedures, etc.

    http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/vetnet.html

    FWIW, Puff and I use Kansas State's CVM TH for all her vet needs.

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    DefaultRe: Itchy...Please help

    My Bear (RIP) had very bad seasonal allergies, we had her
    tested at Tuft derm and we ended up doing the shots, which
    worked really well for her.
    During the really bad times, we found Chlorpheniramine worked
    better than Benadryl. ( I think the Bran name is Tavist)
    Some antihistamines work better than others for some dogs,
    apparently, also she was on a high dose.
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    My Bear (RIP) had very bad seasonal allergies, we had her
    tested at Tuft derm and we ended up doing the shots, which
    worked really well for her
    .

    Tuft's SVM-TH is also world class.
    Puff [YF, AKC field line (from competing HT/FT breeder) 62 lbs, dob: 8-'01]

    Bess [BF, AKC bench line (from competing show breeder) 55 lbs., 1967-1981] "Poor Bess, the Wonder Dog":
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    I would do a food change to a no grain. Like wellness core, evo, taste of the wild, I think bark of the moon in a no grain. And treats should be cut out. It may take 12 weeks to see anything. I wound also find a holitic vet to help. If you want to drive 8 hr I know one.
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