Hi all, I'm new here and just got a call from the vet. I took my 6 month old lab Cooper in this morning to be neutered and the vet called and said Cooper's testicles aren't descended. I knew they weren't but I've only had female dogs before so this is new territory for me. They said they could go ahead with the surgery but it would take a little more to do it which I agreed to. The vet just called again and said he's never came across this before but he can't find Cooper's testicles! He made a 3 1/2 inch incision but they are nowhere to be found. I'm feeling awful for Cooper!! Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Thanks!
In rare cases, female appearing pups have been born w/o ovaries, so my guess the other could occur too. Some pups have both sex organs.
This is a question for a repro specialist imo. I know they can karyotype (sp?) bitches that never come into season to see if they are really bitches...
WindyCanyon Girls, August 2014
Were did he look? My one male had a retained testicle that was way down in the admen. A 3 1/2 in insistion is NOT that big. And sometimes vet make these very small incisions and can find anything or miss it. Here is my other question did you get him from a breeder and or a puppy? I know some breeders that spay or neuter before they puppies go home and shelter did this also.
Just curious, did the vet see your dog before you scheduled the surgery? The undecended testicles shouldn't have been a surprise. I would also call your breeder because they need to know that one of their puppies has that problem.
So what now? Are they sending the pup back home?
Good point!Originally Posted by millstonekennel
WindyCanyon Girls, August 2014
my first thought was pediatric surgery too
if not why hadn't the vet who should have done first and second vaccines commented on exam? how long have you had puppy?
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Thanks for the responses. I really didn't give you many details, did I? I was little concerned after receiving the call from the vet and actually thought I was going to get sick. We got Cooper when he was 8 weeks old from a friend that has had several labs over the years. She isn't a breeder, just a good friend. We've taken Cooper to the same vet for all of his shots, the same vet that the friend had taken the litter to. And nope, Cooper hasn't had any prior surgery. I mentioned to my husband a while back that Cooper's testicles hadn't descended and he checked with our friend about it and she thought maybe they'd drop when he got a little older. But why didn't the vet notice? You just assume they're aware of things. I know...you shouldn't assume! Now I'm kicking myself for not saying something to him.
When I went to pick Cooper up this afternoon the vet said the testicles must be really teeny because he looked for an hour for them behind the bladder, by the kidneys, etc. He said we could possibly do some tests later to check the testosterone levels and maybe later look for the testicles again. What??? Geez, I just don't know. I think I have some research to do. Cooper has been sleeping since I brought him home and has had some water but isn't supposed to eat until tomorrow morning except for a few bites. (I let him enjoy part of a popsicle though). He also has pain pills that he can have beginning tomorrow morning. Thanks for listening!! Suggestions are appreciated.
Testicles are dropped by 6 weeks of age. Your vet should have known this PRIOR to surgery. I'd suggest a new vet.
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Some pups do take a little longer for their testicles to drop...and some are in places where they can't drop. I remember when I was a vet tech we had a dog whose testicles didn't drop until he was 9 mos. We have a cat that despite an hour of search only one testicle could be found. It's obvious from his behavior that there is a little something hiding somewhere and he still has some testosterone issues.
There probably isn't much to do except for monitoring testosterone levels and if they get high go in for another search later down the road when they'd be bigger.
Poor Cooper...all that for nothing!