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    DefaultAnother puppy with tummy troubles...

    Ugh. This is making me crazy. Remy is what? 13 - 14 weeks now? We have also been having an ongoing issue with diarrhea. The breeder had him on a mix of raw & she tried giving him the Solid Gold (our preferred brand) Wolf Cub...but she said it gave him loose stools. So she switched him to Innova large breed puppy - which is what he's on now. We had a bad bout with diarrhea out of nowhere about 3 weeks ago and we can't get him over it completely. His stool has been tested and its fine and we got him on the Science Diet ID...but we can't seem to switch him back off it. We got him up to 75% Innova and 25% Science Diet ID and he was doing well for a couple of days...so we switched him back over to the Innova 100%...and then we had diarrhea again. So we started all over and again...back up to the 75%/25% mix and he was fine....now 2 days into the Innova 100%...diarrhea. I'm at my wits end here.

    He seems fine otherwise...crazy puppy energy, alert, etc. His fur seems a little dry and he's definitely got some dander going on...but he's drinking plenty of water and his gums are pink so he's hydrated. When I spoke to the vet last weekend she said he may just have a sensitive tummy and to just take the switch over slowly...but I'm wondering if he just doesn't like the Innova. I know its supposed to be a good food...anyone else have any issues with Innova? Or maybe its something else? Like maybe he's getting at some grass or something?

    I dunno...

    Melissa, Remy & Brooklyn

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    DefaultRe: Another puppy with tummy troubles...

    Sounds like the food's a little too rich for his tummy. I'd back down a couple of notches personally...pro plan or diamond and see how that works.

    wait....how much are you feeding? Overfeeding can lead to diarrhea too.
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    DefaultRe: Another puppy with tummy troubles...

    He's almost 30 lbs...so based on the bag recommendations we're giving him about 4 1/2 cups.
    Melissa, Remy & Brooklyn

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    DefaultRe: Another puppy with tummy troubles...

    I'd say that's probably too much. Cut back to 1.5 cups two times a day...I'd imagine you'd see a change. Innova is rich.
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    DefaultRe: Another puppy with tummy troubles...

    Remy's age (13-14 weeks) makes me wonder if the diarrhea is related to the puppies series of vaccinations. It could also be the food.

    The information below could help you narrow down the possible causes.

    Inflammatory bowel disease is one of the adverse side affects associated with vaccination.

    From Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats, (Dr. Pitcairn is a DVM with a Ph.D. in veterinary immunology) Under "Vaccination: Replacing Acute Illness with Chronic Disease," p. 274-275: "While immunosuppressive states are not common in dogs, reports of their occurrence are on the rise. I believe the massive vaccination program for canine parvovirus, which began some thirty plus years after we began vaccinating cats with feline parvovirus (panleuokpenia virus), is creating this situation in dogs. .... we have been seeing inflammatory bowel disease in dogs over the past five to ten years. Prior to this it was virtually nonexistent. I am certain that vaccination for parvovirus and coronavirus is a major cause. I commonly see inflammatory bowel disease that arises within a month or two after vaccination for one of these
    viruses
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    If you click on this link http://www.angelfire.com/biz/froghol...accBlanco.html, you will be taken to an article by Dr. Dee Blanco entitled, Vaccines - Are They Safe for Your Dog? in which she states under the What Are the Adverse Reactions, If Any? that "Some of the illnesses you are familiar with include any auto-immune disease such as lupus, red cell aplasia, auto-immune hemolytic anemia cardiomyopathies; neoplasias such as fibrosarcomas, mast cell tumors, thyroid tumors, etc.; inflammatory bowel disease, eczematous ears, any dermatological condition, warts, lipomas, poor hair coats, stomatitis, periodontal disease, thyroid disease, and the list goes on and on. " are linked to vaccination.

    Excellent information on veterinary vaccines is available at the links below:

    Duration of Immunity to Canine Vaccines: What We Know and Don't Know, Dr. Ronald Schultz http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm

    World Small Animal Veterinary Association 2007 Vaccine Guidelines http://www.wsava.org/SAC.htmScroll down to Vaccine Guidelines 2007 (PDF)

    The 2003 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are accessible online at http://www.leerburg.com/special_report.htm .

    The 2006 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are downloadable in PDF format at http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf .

    Veterinarian, Dr. Robert Rogers,has an excellent presentation on veterinary vaccines at http://www.newvaccinationprotocols.com/
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    DefaultRe: Another puppy with tummy troubles...

    It's more likely the food, and how much she's feeding.
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