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    I have a 13 ½ year old mixed breed. Teddy is Border Collie/Lab mix. He started acting odd about a year ago. I took him to the vet last January and was told that he had DM. The vet told me that he would start to lose control of bladder and be paralyzed in 6 to 8 months. He is getting worse almost every day. He still can get up and move around. It is just getting harder for him. He started urinating in the house daily (sometime 2 or 3 times in a day).
    He has also started a new thing. I’m not sure if it is a seizure or not. He has these episodes when he will be lying down, his hind legs draw up really tight to his body and he will shake all over. Kind of like a really bad muscle spasm. His bottom jaw will chatter up and down. After this stops, when he stand up to walk he loses control of his bladder.
    Do any of you have any ideas about what could cause this?

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    Hi, I'm so sorry to hear about Teddy...what does DM stand for?

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    I'm not sure what DM is. However, it is probably a seizure. Sure sounds like one. Many older dogs get them, especially if they're having problems. It is NOT epilepsy. Many things cause seizures. Boomer started having them when she was about 14 years old. If she got overly excited, she would fall down and start screaming. Scared the crap out of me everytime it happened.

    My Kelly was diagnosed with kidney failure and the last year of her life she had seizures. It was the poison from the kidneys not doing their job that caused them.



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    DefaultRe: seizures?

    DM = diabetes mellitus?
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    DM = Degenerative Myopathy (causes the nerves to die in the spine and paralyzes the dog)

    Teddy doesn't scream, whimper or whine when this happens. Thats why I wasn't sure if it was a seizure.

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    Thanks for clarifying what it was. There are all types of seizures. Have you asked the vet if seizures could be part of the disease?



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    I would say that it certainly sounds as if Teddy is having a seizure.

    Sorry to hear that you are dealing with DM My oldest boy, Blue, has been unable to use his back legs to support his weight for nearly a year now (he shuffles around on his bum). Initially thought he had DM but because he still has pretty good bowel and bladder control I think it is more likely to be something else going on.

    Won't someone please feed me!

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    One of the potential adverse reactions to vaccinations is seizures -- has your dog recently been vaccinated?

    Combination Vaccines, Multiple Shots--on Page 16 of the 2003 AAHA Guidelines under Immunological Factors Determining Vaccine Safety, it states that: "Although increasing the number of components in a vaccine may be more convenient for the practitioner or owner, the likelihood for adverse effects may increase. Also, interference can occur among the components. Care must be taken not to administer a product containing too many vaccines simultaneously if adverse events are to be avoided and optimal immune responses are sought. "

    Significant calcium deficiency can cause seizure-like episodes, have you had a blood test to check calcium and phosphorous levels? High phosphorous foods (meat, eggs, nuts) bind with calcium, as do high oxalate foods (oatmeal) and may deplete your dog's levels to a point where it will cause problems. Poison will also cause seizures.

    You might want to do an online search for "canine hypocalcemia" or just "hypocalcemia". This link http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/breeding/eclampsia.htm will take you to an article on this subject in which it states that the signs of low calcium levels (hyocalcemia) are: "Muscle tremors, restlessness, panting, incoordination, grand mal seizures and fever as high as 106."

    Further, the above articles thats a one of the possible causes: Poor Nutrition - "Home brewed" diets usually are at fault. The owner innocently may be adding too much unbalanced meat to the bitch's diet, thinking the extra protein is beneficial. What's really happening is the calcium to phosphorus ratio is out of balance because the amount of useful calcium in the food is actually reduced! The ideal contains a ratio of calcium to phosphorus of 1.2 to 1. (Many organ meats such as liver have a ratio of calcium to phosphorus of 1 to 15!! Liver is great for dogs but if it comprises a large part of the diet, the calcium/phosphorus ratio of the diet will be improper.)

    If you have chickens, you should be aware that their droppings are extremely high in phosphorous and can cause a problem if your dog eats too many of them. If the droppings are charging your dog's blood with phosphorous, it's going to drain him/her of calcium in order to maintain proper pH balance and cause muscle twitching, etc...

    Check this link HPA | Phosphorous | FAQs on phosphorous from the Health Protection Agency, especially this quote: "It has been used as a rat and rodent poison.."

    Check this site Eclampsia (Puerperal Tetany, Milk Fever, Hypocalcemia) in Dogs "Eclampsia, also called milk fever or puerperal tetany, is an acute, life-threatening disease caused by low blood calcium levels (hypocalcemia) in dogs ...."

    One of our dogs developed severe seizures after the second of his puppy rabies shots -- his head shook so hard we thought his eyes would pop out, it was terrifying. After this seizure activity triggered by the vaccine, he became prone to them from other triggers. Whenever he ate too many high phosphorous foods (or chicken droppings), he would seize. Giving him 1/2 a quart of plain organic yogurt would calm his seizures within 15 minutes, when they were food-related.

    Personally, I would have a complete blood count done to check for mineral levels if you don't think vaccines or something your dog is eating is causing the seizures. PLUS, I would consult a Homeopathic/Holistic veterinarian for an alternative treatment, you can do an online search for one near you at American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association http://www.holisticvetlist.com/, Academy of Veterinary Homeopathy http://www.theavh.org/referral/index.php.

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    Duration of Immunity to Canine Vaccines: What We Know and Don't Know, Dr. Ronald Schultz http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm

    World Small Animal Veterinary Association 2007 Vaccine Guidelines http://www.wsava.org/SAC.htm Scroll down to Vaccine Guidelines 2007 (PDF)

    The 2003 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are accessible online at http://www.leerburg.com/special_report.htm .

    The 2006 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are downloadable in PDF format at http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf .

    Veterinarian, Dr. Robert Rogers,has an excellent presentation on veterinary vaccines at http://www.newvaccinationprotocols.com/
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