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    DefaultPuff had physical & blood panel today for teeth cleaning next Monday/Update @end

    We use Kansas State's CollVetMed Teaching Hospital for our vet work. Last January, our vet noticed some buildup of plaque, etc., on her teeth and the beginning of some gingivitis. So we scheduled a teeth cleaning for Puff and it's this month.

    We drove the 55 miles to KSU's CVM this morning and she had her physical and blood work done. No charge -- it's part of the cleaning.

    Next Monday, we're due there again at 7:30 AM. She'll have a complete anesthesia and her teeth scaled, cleaned and polished. The dental vet was a little concerned at the shape of her canines but I explained it was wear from daily retrieving. He said he may want to X-ray them to assure they're healthy.

    Her eye exam today revealed the beginning of cataracts -- not severe but some clouding.

    After cleaning, Puff may have to stay overnight, depending on her recovery. They'll call me when I can get her.

    Cost will be $250 (overnight stay included if needed) plus any X-rays.

    Now I need to learn to brush Puff's teeth daily. Apparently her weekly knuckle bone isn't quite enough. But the vet did say Puff's teeth were at the stage he most wants to get them -- just at the beginning of need.

    Puff [YF, AKC field line (from competing HT/FT breeder) 62 lbs, dob: 8-'01]

    Bess [BF, AKC bench line (from competing show breeder) 55 lbs., 1967-1981] "Poor Bess, the Wonder Dog":
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    DefaultRe: Puff had physical & blood panel today for teeth cleaning next Monday

    Good luck with the cleaning hopefully it goes smoothly and she's able to come home that night.
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    DefaultRe: Puff had physical & blood panel today for teeth cleaning next Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Pr.
    The dental vet was a little concerned at the shape of her canines but I explained it was wear from daily retrieving. He said he may want to X-ray them to assure they're healthy.

    Now I need to learn to brush Puff's teeth daily. Apparently her weekly knuckle bone isn't quite enough. But the vet did say Puff's teeth were at the stage he most wants to get them -- just at the beginning of need.
    Bob, knuckle bones are more for recreation, pschological and providing healthy exercise to develop strong jaw and upper body muscles. The downside is that they cause excessive wear on the canines. I know experienced raw feeders that won't feed these bones for that reason.

    Knuckle or other recreational bones don't really do a good job of cleaning teeth even for dogs on a raw diet. The teeth cleaning for raw diet dogs comes from the hard messaging and chewing effect of raw meat on the gums and teeth. And raw meat doesn't get stuck in tooth crevices, between teeth and also will not leave a residue that causes plaque like kibble will do.

    I don't think the wear on her canines was caused by daily retreiving - more likely it was caused by the knuckle bones. You may want to reconsider feeding the knuckle bones if you're going to be brushing her teeth every day anyway and then she won't have any further problems of wearing down her teeth.

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    DefaultRe: Puff had physical & blood panel today for teeth cleaning next Monday

    My vet says brushing only needs to concentrate on the outer surface. The dogs tongue does a good enough job on the inner surface.
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    Hi Bob,
    Hope all goes well for your little Pufferlumps. Sounds like she'll be in the best place to get the job done. I too give Buck knuckle bones weekly and they seem to keep his teeth really nice, we go back to vet on Saturday for recheck on thyroid levels, will ask her to check his teeth too. I also find that his stuffy toys help alot too, I'm always finding things stuck to the fur on the toys when they go into the washing machine aaakk. Let us know how the little girl does on Monday. Hope she has a really nice gleaming smile for you when you pick her up.

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    DefaultRe: Puff had physical & blood panel today for teeth cleaning next Monday

    Hi Bob, Jake loves having his teeth brushed. I use a cheap electric toothbrush (oral-b, it was 6.99) and made a game out of it. We began with a "Get the brush!" sort of bitey-face, and now he just sits and chews on it while I move it around his mouth. Is Puff pretty playful and bold? This might not work for a timid dog (my mom's dog is very afraid of the noise), but it's worked great for Jake and I!

    Just be sure to use dog toothpaste, not human!

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    UPDATE

    I got Puff to KSU's CVM-TH this morning at 7:30 AM. They weren't sure when, among the masses being cleaned today, she'd be anesthetized and have her teeth cleaned. One phone call I got around noon said she may be kept overnight and treated tomorrow. But finally I got phone calls in the afternoon saying she was now going in, another that she came out, another that she was still asleep from the total anesthesia and would be kept overnight and I could pick her up tomorrow. But then a phone call came at 6 PM saying, to their surprise she suddenly woke up, was prancing around and was alert and, if I wanted to drive the 55 miles, I could pick her up tonight.

    I wanted.

    I was there at 7 PM. Puff was active and alert, glad to see me, gave me a quick kiss.

    I paid the bill, anesthesiologist and anesthesia, $124; dental exam, scaling, polishing, radiographs $100. (They also trimmed her nails while under the anesthesia -- N/C.)

    They included a picture of her teeth before & after -- "before" had yellow stains near the gums, "after" they were all white.

    When Puff got to the car, her early experinces showed through: she stumbled a little in trying to jump in to the front passenger seat of my "Puffmobile" --a 2000 Honda Accord 2 Dr coupe. On the trip back, she acted as if she was still under the anesthesia's effects, sitting, looking for all the world as if she needed to plop down and sleep but too groggy to do it. Eventually she did several times, curled in a loose "coiled-C" on the seat but interspersed with occasionally groggily sitting up and groggily viewing the landscape of the Flint Hills and the Interstate.

    On KSU's instructions, she got her evening kibble softened by water -- her first food of the day. She's to eat it softened like that for the next couple days -- and no retrieving.

    The vet dentist agreed with my view that the tooth wear to her canines did not need special X-rays but were caused by wear from her retrieving. I calculated that 365 days/year X 5.5+ years X approx 30+ retrieves/day was over 60,000 retrieves which -- possibly? -- could be enough to cause the wear.

    jlab said:
    I don't think the wear on her canines was caused by daily retreiving - more likely it was caused by the knuckle bones. You may want to reconsider feeding the knuckle bones if you're going to be brushing her teeth every day anyway and then she won't have any further problems of wearing down her teeth
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    Puff [YF, AKC field line (from competing HT/FT breeder) 62 lbs, dob: 8-'01]

    Bess [BF, AKC bench line (from competing show breeder) 55 lbs., 1967-1981] "Poor Bess, the Wonder Dog":
    http://forum.justlabradors.com/showt...?p=748#post748

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    DefaultRe: Puff had physical & blood panel today for teeth cleaning next Monday/Update @end

    But Bob, why wouldn't you believe an anonymous Internet poster over a veterinary specialist who ACTUALLY examined Puff?

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    DefaultRe: Puff had physical & blood panel today for teeth cleaning next Monday/Update @end

    Nick, you've found me out!

    I confess -- my 9 years of graduate work, reinforced by several decades of teaching evening university classes and keeping up with developments in evolution, animal behavior, etc., has made me cautious about and critically evaluate what I'll consider as being potentially valuable.

    There's a lot of junk out there.

    I want studies by generally accepted, recognized experts who publish in discipline-accepted scientific journals, not someone who can just write a book to be bought, read, and touted by a small segment of cultists.

    So the anonymous internet poster doesn't stand a chance.
    Puff [YF, AKC field line (from competing HT/FT breeder) 62 lbs, dob: 8-'01]

    Bess [BF, AKC bench line (from competing show breeder) 55 lbs., 1967-1981] "Poor Bess, the Wonder Dog":
    http://forum.justlabradors.com/showt...?p=748#post748

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    DefaultRe: Puff had physical & blood panel today for teeth cleaning next Monday/Update @end

    There's a lot of junk out there.
    Gosh, I couldn't agree with you more. It's so easy to make wild accusations. It's much harder to disprove them. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I think skepticism is good - just not to the exclusion of facts.

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