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    DefaultColitis or What???? I'm Worried!! Update

    Well so far so good, the vet swtiched her diet and she does seem to be somewhat less starved. No problem pooping and no blood. I really won't know anything until she completes her medicines and then we'll see if she remains ok. Please keep some good thoughts and a prayer if you can that this will be the end of this colitis cycle with her. I love this pup so much and I want her to be ok. Thanks for all that expressed concern for her.

    Princess is having issues again...........
    She was diagnosised with colitis last month 4/12...she was given meds - metronidazole and amoxi -tabs and I thought she was allright.* They she showed blood again in her stools, she would potty and then strain like she had to do more, that's when I saw the blood.* Took her back to the vet, they checked her - saw nothing - thought the blood was from her straining and put her on perscription food - the science w/d.* She was doing better and then she had terrible chin bumps so she was put on amoxi-tabs again for that.* Her stools looked good and her chin cleared up.* She completed that round or amoxi tabs on the 25th. of May.* A couple of days ago she started the poop then straining to poop again thing.* Today I'm seeing blood again.* I called the vet back and they have put her on another round of Metronidazole and amoxi tabs.* This is really starting to worry me.* Also, since she has been on this perscription food her itching has gotten better but the food is not satisfing her at all, she acts like she is starving to death.* I've never seen her act so hungry.* I increased the amount I was giving her and she still acts like a wild dog at feeding time.* I feed her twice a day and she can have NO treats.* I added pumpkin to help but was advised not to do this, so I stopped.* She neaver acted like this when she was on any other foods.* I really don't know what to do, she is driving me crazy with the starving thing plus now the blood. I'm wondering if it is something more than colitis....* She does not act like she feels bad at all.
    Any advice would be appreciated as I am very very worried about her.*


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    DefaultRe: Colitis or What???? I'm Worried!!

    Maybe get a second opinion?

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    I am doing a copy/paste here of what I posted on another board about this same subject:

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    Sami has colitis, which my vet believes may be food-allergy related. I switched her to California Natural Lamb Meal and Rice because of the limited ingredients in the food. She had been eating Solid Gold Wolfking when she developed the problem.

    I consulted w/ a holistic vet who suggested I add a few supplements:
    * L-Glutamine, which is an amino acid that helps both dogs and people w/ colitis, IBS/IBD, etc.
    * Probiotics for good gut health
    * Montmorillonite Clay, which binds toxins in the digestive system (I'll note here that she has had 3 bouts w/ Clostridium (bacterial) overgrowth, so that's why this was suggested I think).
    * Seacure, a product that is said to help support cells in the gastrointestinal tract.

    I have also used slippery elm bark powder, which is an anti-inflammatory.

    Not being one to take anything at face value, I did tons of research on what was recommended. Of the above list, the one I questioned was Seacure. I guess I just don't understand WHY it would work. BUT I am trying it out, as it's nothing more than pre-digested, hydrolized white fish. I did find an article on it that was in the Whole Dog Journal a few years ago: http://www.propernutrition.com/Fullarticle_WDJ.pdf

    For my disclaimer I'll say that these were suggested to me under the advice of a vet. I would suggest the same.

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    Also, just to add to this -- colitis is usually fiber responsive.* While Sami was having a flare-up I added 1 tsp. of psyllium husks to her meals and it really helped.* Since I've been following the protocol above I gradually reduced the fiber until I'm not giving it to her anymore.

    Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I feel your pain!

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    Oh, and I also agree that you probably need to get a second opinion.

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    Thanks - any more ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilprincee
    Thanks - any more ideas?
    Well I'm not sure what you are looking for ... but I understand your frustration.

    I would definitely find another vet and investigate trying some holistic remedies. I'm assuming your vet did a fecal -- did he find any type of bacterial overgrowth or parasite?

    What prescription food are you feeding? Are you giving any type of probiotics?

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    I guess I'm looking for a quick fix. I'm hoping this round of meds will clear this up and it will be over with. The vet told me to feed her Hill W/D perscription food and nothing else. She wanted to see if it was her food alergies causing this. That is all I am feeding her. I am not giving her any supplements at all. I am giving her her meds twice a day and hoping this will clear up. Today she has been on the meds just 2 days and everything looks great......but I'm worried what happens when she goes off the meds this time. Hopefully it won't come back. I guess I was hoping someone else had had this same experience and after the second round of meds it was over. So far.......
    She had blood in her stools - she was treated with metronidazole and amoxi -tabs
    Clear up and everything looked great.
    Few days after all meds gone she had blood in stools again.........this time the vet said it was most likely from
    her straining - put her on perscription food only...........gave her amoxi tabs - but this was perscribed for her chin bumps that were awful.
    Everything cleared up again - bumps and poops looked great........
    After med was completed -- few days later......straining when pooping and blood again.
    Vet again perscribed metronidazole and amoxi -tabs .........She has been on these only 2 days and everything looks good.
    So I guess I'm not ready to doubt the vet yet....I'm just so worried that it will come back again and then I don't know what to do.
    I havent given her probiotics because the vet said she should have Nothing but the food she perscribed.
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    If any of you think I'm getting bad advice from my vet - please let me know. We moved a little over a year ago so I don't know a whole lot about this vet. I'm dealing in blind faith that she knows what she is doing.
    Princess will be 5 years on June 24. She has never every had a problem like this before.
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    I feel your pain... sorta. I just posted again about Ender... he seems to be on the roller coaster of poop issues and I just want a test to come back positive... a CLEAR reason and course of action for whatever is causing his loose stool. I can't stand this trial and error process we are going through right now, and have gone through since getting him. Anyways... I feel your pain and hope you get it figured out soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilprincee
    I guess I'm looking for a quick fix.* I'm hoping this round of meds will clear this up and it will be over with.* The vet told me to feed her Hill W/D perscription food and nothing else.* She wanted to see if it was her food alergies causing this.* That is all I am feeding her.* I am not giving her any supplements at all.* I am giving her her meds twice a day and hoping this will clear up.* Today she has been on the meds just 2 days and everything looks great......but I'm worried what happens when she goes off the meds this time.* Hopefully it won't come back.* I guess I was hoping someone else had had this same experience and after the second round of meds it was over.* So far.......
    She had blood in her stools - she was treated with* metronidazole and amoxi -tabs
    Clear up and everything looked great.
    Few days after all meds gone she had blood in stools again.........this time the vet said it was most likely from
    her straining - put her on perscription food only...........gave her amoxi tabs - but this was perscribed for her chin bumps that were awful.*
    Everything cleared up again - bumps and poops looked great........
    After med was completed -- few days later......straining when pooping and blood again.
    Vet again perscribed metronidazole and amoxi -tabs .........She has been on these only 2 days and everything looks good.
    So I guess I'm not ready to doubt the vet yet....I'm just so worried that it will come back again and then I don't know what to do.
    I havent given her probiotics because the vet said she should have Nothing but the food she perscribed.*
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    If any of you think I'm getting bad advice from my vet - please let me know.* We moved a little over a year ago so I don't know a whole lot about this vet.* I'm dealing in blind faith that she knows what she is doing.*
    Princess will be 5 years on June 24.* She has never every had a problem like this before.*
    Well you are basically describing Sami's life for a few months.* She was on the Metronidazole 4 times.* Each time she went off, within 3 days, she was back to having off & on diarrhea / straining, etc.* Sami's was full of mucous, which I've learned is the beginning of the downward spiral for her.* I was told basically the same thing you were -- that it's food allergies and to put her on Walthams Hypoallergenic HP food.* I just looked at the ingredients and didn't think I could do it without a last ditch effort.* I talked to my vet about it and she said it was worth a shot.* So I changed her to California Natural Lamb Meal & Rice.* I did this while she was on the Metronidazole.* After she went off of it I kept a poop vigil* ;D -- and lo and behold they still, to this day, look good.* I was a little frustrated that my vet wasn't willing to give me some other ideas about how to solve the problem (I asked about probiotics, Slippery Elm, Oil of Oregano, etc ... and she rather frowned on all the ideas ... but she certainly didn't have a problem continuing to prescribe antibiotics.)* So, I took her to a holistic vet, who gave me the protocol I outlined above, which I'm hoping will help restore her gut to it's previous state of health .

    I have since been able to add in a couple of foods -- one is the Neura canned food -- 95% lamb, and I also recently started w/ the Natural Balance Lamb Rolls.* I give both of those in fairly small amounts.* So far, no changes in her poop.* The one thing that I'm pretty sure is a big trigger for her is high fat items.* I gave her a pig ear one afternoon and boy did we pay for that -- and at 5 a.m. to boot!

    Honestly, I don't think your vet is off the mark for traditional medicine.* I hope it works.* I know if we have another outbreak, Sami will be put on the Hypoallergenic food.* I refuse to put her through this again and again just to keep her off of the food.* *

    All of this poop talk makes me think that in my next life I'll be a poopologist.* I have loads of experience.* ;D


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    I have been reading this forum for about a year and have learned a lot. I registered in the past and the forum site changed so I just now re registered again because I wanted to respond to you.

    My first lab, Riley, had problems with straining and blood in his stool. The blood in his stools were straight lines. I had him at the vet regularly for a year with this problem. He was diagnosed with colitis. He was put on special foods. We tried several medications. It finally got to the point where he was unable to poop. He tried and tried, but couldn't. He was diagnosed with perianal fistulas and by the time the vets realized what it was the fistulas were 360 degrees around his anus. I think they had a hard time diagnosing it b/c he didn't have all the signs of fistulas. I was sent to a specialist and after many surgeries and medication he was fine.
    I am by no means suggesting that Princess might have perianal fistulas., but I just wanted to mention it to you so if the problem persists after she is off the medication it might be something to ask about.

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