Has anyone had experience with a healthy dog going in for a spay and not making it? I have had several friends in a different breed that have experienced this recently. They are not geographically connected, all done by different vets and various ages of dogs. I'm just wondering if this could be protocol related or mere coincidence. Any information would be helpful.
I'd say it's a mere coincidence. things can and do go wrong. A dog may not do well under anthestisia, have cloting issues, etc. I have not heard of any issues...we had a dog neutered and one spayed last week.
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POOH! I got an email this morning at home - and didn't forward it to the office - but it was about a problem with Danes - same issue - spay deaths increasing - and I can't get it til tomorrow - sorry...
OK - here is the email I received courtsey of a list I am on - no idea of the validity of any statements - but it did come w/permission to crosspost as widely as possible - and the request to leave the orig email addy in it:
This message came from a friend w/ a Dane. She's asking for help and has
given us permission to crosspost anywhere we can think of. Please respond
privately: [email protected].
Thanks a bunch!!
"For those of you who are on breed-specific lists, I have a question for
I'm a Dane person - have been for about 10 years now. We've recently seen a
HUGE increase in the number of deaths resulting from routine spays in Dane
bitches in the past
year - these are simple, no-problem spay surgeries, following the protocol
set up by our own GDCA health and welfare committee for anesthesia use, etc.
It's gotten so bad that I rescheduled my own bitch's surgery THREE times,
before finally cancelling it. I'm just too paranoid.
Can those of you who are active in other breeds, whether it be show or
who have a good network of friends do some checking - see if the incidence
of death in your respective breeds seems to be increasing after routine
spays? We're really
wondering what the heck is going wrong here. After the THIRD loss in less
than a week, we're all very, very scared.
We've had some really tragic losses of some wonderful girls this past year,
and it's making us all step back and really think about whether there's a
bigger problem going on (like vets not properly trained, not following
proper procedures, WHAT?) and rethink spaying our own dogs...
Any ideas? Correlation in other breeds? Etc..."
Thanks for the info. There are about 5 deaths I know of in danes in the past couple of months. It looks like DIC, a clotting issue may be a cause. Not too familar with DIC.
Those in rescue (in any breed) are witness to many more spays then the average pet owner. They would seem to have a better view based on sheer numbers and would know of any bad outcomes.
It makes you wonder if there's a particular drug in use that's causing this in Great Danes. I wonder if it's more widespread than this?
How awful. I can only imagine how I would feel if I had a Dane scheduled for a spay :-[
All I can say is from my experience. I work at a vet that does approx 20-25 spay/neuter surgeries a week and have not had any serious complications in a long time. Most serious I have seen recently is dogs coming back because their stitches were torn from being to active after the surgery. Now, that's just my experience at one clinic, so not a real wide base to go by. And I can't remember the last time we've seen a Dane at the clinic, much less a spay...
From the information we are gathering it appears to be "giant breed" related. Larger veins, arteries, etc... But part of me seems to think that drugs or perhaps misuse of certain drugs during spay can aggrevate the procedure.