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    Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest with You? ABC News 11/22/13 Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest With You? | Video - ABC News (Please copy & paste link into your browser if it doesn't work by clicking on it.)

    "Pushing the Shots" at 4:31. Remember as you watch that the American Animal Hospital Association Canine Vaccine Guidelines referenced in this news article show distemper, parvo & hepatitis vaccines have a proven MINIMUM duration of immunity of 7 years by challenge and up to 15 years serologically.

    The 2003 American Animal Hospital Association Canine Vaccine Guidelines Leerburg | Special Report state on Page 18 that: “We now know that booster injections are of no value in dogs already immune, and immunity from distemper infection and vaccination lasts for a minimum of 7 years based on challenge studies and up to 15 years (a lifetime) based on antibody titer.” They further state that hepatitis and parvovirus vaccines have been proven to protect for a minimum of 7 years by challenge and up to 9 and 10 years based on antibody count.

    Canine parvo type 2, distemper, adeno type 1 and parainfluenza: "These results suggest that the duration of serological response induced by modified-live vaccines against CPV-2, CDV, CAV-1 and CPiV...vaccines, is beyond 18 months and may extend up to 9 years. Accordingly, these vaccines may be considered for use in extended revaccination interval protocols as recommended by current canine vaccine guidelines." Duration of serological response to canine parvov... [Aust Vet J. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI
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    How do you explain the low titers that some folks have gotten then? I've had a couple pup owners who titered, and had to boost at age 2 or 3. These are perfectly happy/healthy labs. Bad titers? Bad vaccine? If so, how would they have known had they not titered? Very curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by windycanyon View Post
    How do you explain the low titers that some folks have gotten then? I've had a couple pup owners who titered, and had to boost at age 2 or 3. These are perfectly happy/healthy labs. Bad titers? Bad vaccine? If so, how would they have known had they not titered? Very curious...
    Low titers do not necessarily mean the dog is not protected against disease. The information below from Dr. Ronald Schultz may prove helpful.

    This is what Dr. Ronald Schultz had to say in his 2007 presentation to the AKC Canine Health Foundation entitled,What Everyone Needs to Know About Canine Vaccines and Vaccination Programs: What Everyone Needs to Know About Canine Vaccines

    "An antibody titer no matter how low shows the animal has immunologic memory since memory effector B cells must be present to produce that antibody. Some dogs without antibody are protected from disease because they have T cell memory, that will provide cell mediated immunity (CMI). CMI will not protect from reinfection, but it will prevent disease."

    My own dogs, those of my children and grandchildren are vaccinated with MLV CDV, CPV-2, CPI, andCAV-2 vaccines once as puppies after the age of 12 weeks. An antibody titer is performed two or more weeks later and if found positive our dogs are never again vaccinated. " I have used this vaccination program with modifications (CAV-2 replaced CAV-1 vaccines in 1970's and CPV-2 vaccines were first used in 1980) since 1974! I have never had one of our dogs develop CDV,CAV-1 or CPV-2 even though they have had exposure to many dogs, wildlife and to virulent CPV-2 virus. You may say that I have been lucky, but it is not luck that protects my dogs, it is immunologic memory.


    The vaccines in the quote above are CDV (distemper), CPV-2 (parvovirus), CPI (canine parainfluenza), and CAV-2 (hepatitis), and Dr. Ronald Schultz is the Chair of the Department of Pathobiological Sciences at the University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine. His challenge and serological studies on canine vaccines form a large part of the scientific data base upon which the 2003, 2006, and 2011 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are based, as well as the 2007 World Small Animal Veterinary Association's Vaccine Guidelines.
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