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    DefaultDid I jinx myself?

    I may have spoken too soon. The diarrhea is back. Ugh. Calling vet tomorrow and demanding drugs.

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    what drugs do you plan to demand?
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    Getting the drugs to treat giardia is a good idea. But you need to have some patience working through stomach problems. They don't turn around over night. Are you staying away from treats, of all kinds. Remember, your goal is to find one feed that will work for your dog. Several weeks of working. Then you can select one quality treat and introduce it, making sure you read the labeling and know what the ingredients are. As you find something that works, you continue the process until you know what works, and what doesn't.
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    Brody - I suspect it's some sort of bacterial infection.

    Hershey - No treats. Just his food. I can probably admit I'm impatient with the situation but mostly because I'm watching my puppy waste away. He is skin and bones now and it scares me. Hopefully, things will turn around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanny320 View Post
    Brody - I suspect it's some sort of bacterial infection.

    Hershey - No treats. Just his food. I can probably admit I'm impatient with the situation but mostly because I'm watching my puppy waste away. He is skin and bones now and it scares me. Hopefully, things will turn around.
    I don't know if you are overreacting, exagerating, consciously, or just out of being overly concerned. But those comments got my attention. If your assessment is accurate, get yourself and the dog to another vet. Are you located anywhere near a Veterinary school, see if you can get the dog seen there. If you dog has been having an issue with diarhea, and your vet is passive about looking for giardia, and your dog is losing weight, i.e. skin and bones, and your dog is probably dehydrated and your vet hasn't been giving him fluids, FIND YOURSELF ANOTHER VET TODAY!
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    I would insist on the meds to treat Giardia...if she wont give them to you, try another vet. Try to be patient with the food change, it takes time. I know you're worried, it so hard to see our pups sick. If you are that concerned, get a second opinion. Prayers and good thoughts your pup is better very soon. Keep us posted.

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    Edited: ok so I looked back at the story (background) abit - you finally settled on a food about 3 days ago? Too quick to change again I think. How much are you feeding? Can one add abit of pumpkin at this age to help the tummy (not sure - this is doen for adults)

    Also, how as gross as this is, how bad is the diareah? Are we talking mooshy poops or explosive puppy needs out often stuff?

    I agree with teh above post - if you are not exagerating and your puppy is loosing weight and "wasting away" then you need to see another vet. But that depends on how bad things are...
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    If your words *because I'm watching my puppy waste away. He is skin and bones now and it scares me.* are not an exaggeration , get to another vet ASAP.

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    Again, as I said in my previous posts, you're switching foods too quickly. I'd go back to EN, get firm stools - and SLOWLY mix in a new diet. Although, if your puppy is truly "skin and bones" I'd get on EN or whatever he has solid stools with and stay with it long enough to get back up to a normal weight and treat for giardia (if your vet will write you a script for Metronidazole too I'd add that on for 14 days at the same time). Then, you can try new foods. Either that or I'd be heading to an internal medicine specialist to check for some sort of maldigestive/malabsorptive disorder. Also, who did the fecal test for parasites? Your vet or did they send it out? I'd ask that it be sent out.

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    Demanding drugs for something undiagnosed is not best practice ...
    yes giardia can be hard to find - and there is no doubt the best way to find it is to use the freshest sample possible (ideally from the drop right into the fixative solution) but wasting time treating something it is a but futile - and may lead to worse problems .. if for example the puppy has coccidia they can die before the proper treatment is instituted

    Many vets will put puppies and other animals having sloppy poop on Flagyl (aka metronidazole) which has a slight antibiotic property as well as being antibacterial - it is also often the treatment of choice of giardia and a short course can get things under control generally

    I could get into a lengthy post about Sally and how many times she nearly died as a young puppy and then stabilizing her after she came to us - in a nutshell her diet was changed regularly for 4 months .. without a full work up being done - when I found what worked for her (a home cooked diet prepared by a nutritionist in consultation with my vet) she was on it for well oevr a year - to start she ate tiny meals aroudn the clock - eventually got down to meals 4 times a day .. then I started introducing a hypoallergic food to her once a week (as I was worried about balancing a puppy's diet long term) then 2,3 times a week, then once a day (when she went down to three meals). It was hell.. we were doing blood tests every 3 months ..
    I still worry about her but to meet her you'd never know the issues she had (she is 4 now) unless you offer her food and watch me explode!!

    all I'm trying to say is there often aren't quick easy answers ... what does your breeder say?
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