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    DefaultGun safety 101?

    I'm really not sure what to say about this, except that wherever you stand on hunting/gun ownership, etc. it's really sad for everyone involved. :'(

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5434984.html

    Dog steps on gun, kills Baytown teacher
    By CINDY HORSWELL

    In a freak hunting accident, a Baytown man was killed over the weekend
    when his dog stepped on his loaded shotgun, triggering a discharge that
    penetrated his truck's tailgate and then struck him, officials said.

    Perry Alvin Price III was hunting on a lease near Stowell in Chambers
    County Saturday and had shot down a goose but had not seen where it
    landed, sheriff's investigators said.

    The 46-year-old math teacher from Baytown's Robert E. Lee High School
    then put his shotgun in the back of his truck and was about to open the
    tailgate to release his tracking dog when the shotgun fired,
    investigators said. The blast struck Price in the thigh.

    Price died from severe blood loss from his femoral artery shortly after
    arriving about 6:20 p.m. at Winnie Medical Center. Price's hunting
    companion and a former student, Daniel Groberg, said he tried to stop
    the bleeding with clothing before taking him from the hunting lease off
    FM 1941.

    Paw prints from Price's beloved chocolate Labrador retriever, Arthur,
    were found on the muddy shotgun, said Chambers County Sheriff Joe
    LaRive.

    "It's the strangest case that I've seen," LaRive said. "We couldn't
    talk to Perry and Groberg was at the front of the truck when he heard
    the shotgun blast and didn't see what happened."

    Price's sister speculated that the dog was anxious to begin the
    pursuit.

    "His dog was so excited," said Patricia Payne. "He was jumping all
    around, because he was about to get out and go get that goose.

    "That gun had to be knocked around just right to fire. I believe the
    dog knocked the safety off and hit the trigger, too," she said. "Price
    was always so careful."

    Since the shooting, the dog and Price's other pet, a golden retriever,
    Leon, have been looking lost and sad at his Baytown home where he lives
    with his wife, Kelli, and his two stepchildren, Payne said.

    The dogs were "like children to him," his sister said. His classroom at
    Lee is also filled with photographs of his dogs which he used to get
    his students' attention, she said.

    A teaching colleague, Melanie Turner, recalled how Price developed a
    special award this year that was indicative of his love for hunting.
    For students who exhibited extra perseverance and determination, he
    would hand out T-shirts naming them "Bird Dog of the Week."

    "His loss will be felt for quite some time," Turner said.

    Students in the Goose Creek district held a moment of silence in honor
    of Price on Monday. Afterward, counselors talked to many who grieved
    over the loss of their teacher.

    Price had been a fixture on that campus for 20 years. He graduated from
    Texas A&M with a civil engineering degree but chose to dedicate his
    life to teaching instead, his sister said.

    Teaching in Baytown has been a family tradition, as not only Price but
    also Payne and his other sister and brother-in-law, Nancy and Andy
    Jacobs, teach there.

    "Price was a highly respected educator, whose wonderful rapport with
    students was key in helping them to understand and even joy
    mathematics," said Barbara Sultis, Baytown's superintendent.

    "Everyone remembers him for his smile," said Kathy Clausen, the
    district's spokeswoman.

    Teachers praised his ability to help the slower learners and remembered
    his love of hunting.

    "I always enjoyed talking to him about the outdoors, especially about
    his wild hog trap and his taxidermy," said Calvin Jeffrey, another math
    teacher.

    Sheriff LaRive said even experienced, safety-conscious hunters like
    Price must double check themselves when in the field.

    LaRive said the safety should always be kept on any gun that is not
    immediately being fired and that a gun should be stored in a protected
    place with its barrel pointed away from people.

    In October, a 37-year-old Tama, Iowa man was shot in the leg at close
    range by his dog, who stepped on his shotgun and tripped the trigger.

    James Harris was hit in the calf on the opening day of pheasant season.
    The wound was not life-threatening.

    Visitation for Price is scheduled for 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday at the
    Navarre Funeral Home in Baytown.

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    DefaultRe: Gun safety 101?

    Such a tragic accident. I can only imagine what happens when the activists get started.
    (1) Outlaw guns
    (2) Outlaw dogs
    (3) Outlaw hunting
    (4) All of the above

    Damn! Accidents happen. They are tragic for those close to the victims. I hope this one does not fuel the absurdities i listed.
    PS: I don't hunt. I do own one gun which has not been fired since 1973, not sure the ammunition is even safe to load. I am owned by a dog.
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    I've been around guns for as long as I can remember. My dad repeated this about a zillion times, "Girls, the #1 Rule of gun safety is always treat it like it's loaded," and could potentially fire at any time. That means NEVER EVER EVER point it at or near a person.
    These are very sad incidents, especially because they were so preventable.
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    DefaultRe: Gun safety 101?

    My first question when I saw the article was "why was the gun loaded when he placed it in the back of the truck?". Safety on or off, that's careless... and obviously potentially dangerous. And it's so easy to unload and "break" a shotgun. Hell of a way to illustrate a safety lesson.

    Ed, I hope you're wrong, but I totally know where you're coming from. In fact, there was a time when I might have said something along the lines of yet-another-reason-not-to-have-guns.

    I'm still not really a big fan of guns myself, and I don't hunt. My husband, on the other hand, owns several shotguns and even a couple handguns (all properly licensed of course), and I've learned to come to terms with them and handle them safely. I've even had him kit one of the shotguns out for me (shorter stock, thicker recoil pad) since I started getting into shooting sporting clays before we moved from Houston, and I want to continue it at some point in the future. I really enjoyed learning to shoot. So I'm not anti-gun on principle anymore.

    I just really feel bad for the whole family, including (or especially maybe) the poor dog.
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    Entirely preventable. Still very tragic. An unloaded gun has never shot anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GulfCoast
    Entirely preventable. Still very tragic. An unloaded gun has never shot anyone.
    Very true.

    This was not an accident. It was negligence and he did several things wrong. The gun should have been unloaded prior to placing it in the truck. Second, the safety should have been engaged and/or the action should have been open on the gun. Third, the muzzle of the gun should have been pointed away from himself or anyone else (including his dog).

    It is a shame and my heart goes out to his family. Unfortunately I have seen a few hunters with years of experience be negligent with a firearm. Safety has to always be first when handling any weapon.

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    Unbelievable. First rule of hunting - NEVER LOAD THE GUN TILL YOU'RE READY TO SHOOT IT!!!

    Ok. I'm not going to bash the guy that lost his life. He made a tragic mistake. It's very sad. I've been shooting guns since I was old enough to hold one up. My dad's rule was that if they were in the house, everyone had to know how to handle one. And the rule was, you better NEVER point it at anyone. It was always loaded even when it was not loaded, that's how Dad told us to look at it. And shotguns were always open and unloaded right up until you were in the blind or field and actually ready to go.

    So terribly sad. :'(

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    My dad's positon: "We go through life with an open bolt, unless we are in the blind. Check every gun you ever see for an open bolt. If you check a gun outside the blind and the bolt ain't open, make it safe NOW, no matter who you tick off." It works.
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    DefaultRe: Gun safety 101?

    I am really enjoying reading the reminders on gun safety from those that have them. Never hurts to get reminded. Even for those that don't own a gun, it is good to know what we are looking at and dealing with when we do come into their presence.
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