I don't post here very often but do spend a lot of time reading here and feel like I know everyone. I have posted about Jasper from time to time.
Jasper has recently started having seizures and I am looking for some advice/reassurance. He is only 4 years old (he started around 3.5) - is this normal?
His first siezure was with our dog walker in August and was a grandmal siezure (ie. fell over, went rigid etc). We rushed him to the vet. They did blood work and said he was ok.
He had another siezure last week which I saw and he almost broke my heart. So they seem to be about 6 months apart.
Last night, he didn't have another siezure but acted like he did before he had has his siezure. He crouched down, was whining and was having problems walking (like he was drunk). We petted him and told him it was ok (as I was worried he would be scared). He didn't have a full on siezure but clearly it was some sort of episode .... He threw-up afterwards (which may or may not be related). Has anyone seen this sort of mini-siezures before?
Any thoughts or suggestions.
Additional Comment: I have been keeping the vet in the loop about the second siezure although I haven't yet told them about last night (I left a message this morning). They are reluctant to medicate unless we determine that he is having frequent siezures.
Additional Comment 2: Sorry to keep adding things but it seems like a good way to adress things that coment up in posts. My vet clinic seems quite knowledgeable about siezures and epilepsey in general. We did discuss going to the local neurology specialist and we both agreed we would wait to see how things paned out over the next little while. I will post again when I hear back to them to advise if they had any view on yesterday's incident.
Nance - over to you
OMG that sounds awful I dont know what to suggest except maybe going back to your vet and explaining what has happened now that he has had more than one.
Hope jasper is better soon xx
What things have changed in his routine around each of the incidents? My friend's lab has had two seizures too...1 right before he turned 4 and one about 5 months later. Both were centered around two significant circumstances....one was when they moved to a new place and one happened right after the birth of their first child. They seemed to have been stress induced. They did have his thyroid and blood tested as you did with nothing wrong. He has not had an incident since.
Sorry you're dealing with this.....
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Our first lab had seizures. She was older than Jasper when they started.
Document when they happen and everything that went on. Things like - anything different in Jasper's routine before, date, time of day it happened, how long - duration, what Jasper did during the seizure, how he was after - the more detail the better.
During Cory's seizures, I closed the door of the room, closed curtains, shut off lights, turned off TV's/music, just made it quiet and reduced stimulation. I read this somewhere and maybe others can comment about this - whether it's beneficial or not - but one thing it did was give me something to do that made me feel like I was helping her. Watching her seize was something I'll never forget - so painful. She seemed to be trying to get to me when one was coming on, so I'd sit with her during them and talk very quietly, so she knew I was there.
I hope you and your vet(s) can get a handle on these quickly and control them. Good luck, and get well Jasper. (We also had a Jasper, he was Cory's best friend.)
No advice as I have never delt with this before. I just wanted to say that Im sorry both of you have to go through that! Hope you all find the problem. Feel better soon Jasper. :-*
Courtney, Bogey and Calli
I am so sorry you are going through this! I can't even imagine how upsetting this must be for you. Has your vet had alot of experience dealing with dogs and siezures? If not you may want a second opinion just for your own peace of mind.
I suspect someone with Lab experience will eventually respond. We had a mutt that had seizures, (epilepsy) I don't know if that is the only cause, but phenobarbital is a relatively easy control option. I would find another vet, maybe one with specific experience. Maybe a phone call to your nearest veterinary school to ask them what test could/should be run to determine source of the seizures.
I would definitely start keeping a daily log. This is going to take commitment to do it right.
Food, What eaten? How much, What time?
Activities: Walks, running, fetching, swimming, intensity and duration
Behavior: Define what is normal, and then log abnormalities
Visitors or excitement/fear opportunities
Basically, start recording what is going on, then see if there is any trigger pattern to the onset of seizures. Provide information to vet, give them something to work with.
Hershey Kisses, In charge of getting Ed out to the dog park so that he gets some exercise.
I just spoke to my vet who spoke to neurologist. The neurologist said we could do a CT scan if we wanted but its fairly pricey. The specialist and the vet thought we should try putting Jasper on Potasium Bromide (KBr) and see whether that stops the seizures.
I have been keeping a log (around the siezures and not everyday). Thanks to everyone for the good wishes. If you have any more suggestions/thoughts I would appreciate them.