Well we spent the morning at the vets office. Sambuca has an abcess above his eye. He also has a decrease in his range of motion for his jaw again. This has been a reoccuring problem for the past few months. The three different vets are baffled as to why he continues to develop various eye infections and as a result, jaw problems. Any thoughts on this would be helpful! For now they have prescibed Amoxicillin and Metronidazole for the treatment.
They have suggested a cat scan at a hospital, but cautioned that it may show nothing. They also don't recommend surgery because there can be more problems afterwards. Has anyone else had eye problems with their Labs? Is there anything we are missing? I am open to any suggestions or advice. Thanks!
Do you live within driving distance of a School/College of VetMed? Usually their specialists are among the best as well as their diagnostic facilities.
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Debbie, can you try to get a picture of the abscess above his eye? I can't think how the eye and jaw problems could be related unless it's something viral.
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We are in Erie. So Pittsburgh, Cleveland or Columbus will be our options for specialist.
I will try to get a picture tonight of his eye. It is hard to capture the definition because he is so black. The swelling affects his jaw and decreases his range of motion. It becomes very sore for him.
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Poor Sam. I have no ideas as to what can be causing his problems.
Did they check his teeth? I know if a dog has an broken fourth premolar (the big one in the back) they can get abscesses, though it is below the eye.
A friend of mine had something similar. She said it was on and off and the swelling would come and go and the jaw would be painful and then fine. Finally after about 6 weeks they knocked him out and looked around in the mouth. They found a stick that had worked it's way behind a molar and up inside his face causing an intraorbital abscess behind the eye. They removed what they could find. It did not clear up. They had to go back in again and up farther and removed another piece. He was fine afterwards. About a year after hearing this story Clint went to get his soccerball and yelped. He ran back to me cowering. He ran over to it again and tried again. I went over and tried to open his mouth and he yelped. I made a vet appointment for that afternoon. I then noticed a small swelling above his eye. When I brought him in the vet didn't see the swelling and could open his mouth enough so she thought I was exaggerating. I know what happened though. So on my request they gave him a mild sedative and looked around. They saw a swelling around a molar but nothing else. He went home on amoxycillin and after a few days he returned to normal and that was that.
I personally would recommend them knocking him out and taking a look at all the teeth, jaw, etc. Why did they say that wasn't a good option? I would do that before the MRI.
I don't know for sure about dogs, but a friend of mine has a cat with a problem that sounds pretty much the same. And same kind of story. Fought one infection after another for years, going between face and jaw, and finally the vet put the cat under and did a thorough dental work and found a broken tooth removed it cleaned up the abcess and has had more than a year problem free now.
Thank you for all of your replies. It becomes frustrating when you can't get to the bottom of a problem. I just want to figure out how to fix this.
When the problem first happened in August, I thought broken tooth or something stuck in his jaw or orbital abcess because he had just had an eye infection. I figured it had settled. So the vet put him under light sedation and checked everywhere. Sam's teeth, jaw, throat, eyes and ears all appeared normal. They couldn't find any signs of trama or injury or any foreign body. They prescribed an anti-inflamitory and he did improve. I wanted an antibiotic, but they didn't feel it was necessary since he showed no signs of infection or swelling...just immobility of the jaw. They chalked it up to TMJ from over chewing. He did get a new toy, but I would never consider Sam to be an excessive chewer.
Then he gets another infection in the eye. Mainly the soft tissue area is red and swollen. They prescibe prescription eye drops and conditions improve. Then he gets neutered and we have the vet check his eye once again while he is under because it still doesn't look right to me. Of course they can see or find nothing obvious.
So now this time the eye is running clear fluid and the swelling above the eye is present and obvious lack of range in his jaw. I have talked to our breeder and she is obviously concerned as well. I put a call in to my training club because I remember them saying that they are bringing in an opthamologist. If it is soon, I will take him. If not I am going to try to find a good one to take Sam too.
So I am hoping that this is the result of the first infection in August, and never cleared up because he was never given an antibiotic orally, just drops. I wish that they had done x-rays when he was under to see if they could possibly see anything imbedded or "floating" in that area. I have a feeling that this is not over. He just looks so sore. I hate seeing him this way. I just snuggled him on the couch with warm compresses tonight. He seemed to enjoy that.