There is a post on the petfinder forum about a young yellow female lab needing to be rehomed. I asked if she got her from a breeder if so, to call the breeder any rep. breeder would want her back.....somebody responded:
Responsible breeder WOULD require return of the pet, but they also would not have placed one that was intact
Huh? I think we have some awesome examples for great breeders on this board and I don't know one of them that pediatic spay/neuters.
It is common for almost all reputable breeders to sell their dogs on limited registration only, which does not confer breeding rights to the puppy owner. Most breeders require that their puppy buyers spay/neuter their dogs, but this obviously can't be enforced except by spaying and neutering 8 week old puppies before they go home, something that often has health consequences for the dog down the road. The limited registration is an attempt to keep people from breeding, short of spaying or neutering before the dog goes home. Once the dog is spayed or neutered, then most breeders will then sign the dog over to the owner with a full registration.
To buy a dog on full registration from a reputable breeder, you usually have to be known to the breeder and also be pretty heavily involved in dogs, showing, competing, etc. I would consider it a huge red flag for a breeder to be willing to sell a puppy on full registration to just anybody.
I see so they go home unaltered but are only given full registration after altering. Maybe that's what she meant.
which thread is it? nevermind...I found it.
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Once the dog has been spayed/neutered there is no reason to give full registration. Full registration allows the dog to be shown in conformation and bred. With limited registration you can do everything else but that.
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She posted again that's not what she was referring to. She's one of the ANTI ANTI breeding rescue folks, makes me wonder where she thinks breeds came from. Good response Dani.
Thanks labby makes sense.
So this person really thinks puppies should be altered at seven or eight WEEKS old?! Well, that just seems stupid to me.
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When you do rescue day in and day out, I can see how you can become so angry about overpopulation that you could develop a general dislike of breeders. But sounds like this person has gone further and is a True Believer. When you become a True Believer with a hero complex, then everything needs to be black and white, us and them, good and evil. Rational argument doesn't work. Most rescue folks are not like this, but I've met enough who are, and it's very frustrating. There was a list for dogs in Pittsburgh that I was on, and it had a few True Believers on it. A couple really didn't like it when I pointed out that if we didn't have responsible breeders, then all breeding would be left up to BYBs, puppy mills, and random chance.