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    In my thread about Frankie being attacked, Nathan brought up a good point. I'm afraid Frankie is going to become leash aggressive now. Not only from this incident (3 with LM dog actually :), but a couple of other things.

    We had him at our friends house down the road on a leash and his IDIOT neighbor walked their dog over. Frankie did not like this dog at all (Bubba is a rescue lab and he's a bit aggressive / pushy). Frankie got scared and backed up and the idiots kept insisting the two become friends. I said "NO! Frankie does not like Bubba!". They got into a little leash fight. :-\ A couple of weeks later I was walking Frankie on one side of the road and she was walking Bubba on the other. She tried to come to greet us and again I said "NO! They don't get along!". This woman is an idiot, she doesn't get it. Frankie got pissed immediately upon seeing Bubba in the road and tried to go after him, growling

    AND! Next door to LM dogs house is another house with a weimerimer (sp?) loose in the yard. This dog stays in the yard (electric fence) but barks and chases us down the length of the yard until we're out of sight. Of course Frankie barks back at him now.

    I'm afraid now that because of all of these incidents, he's going to be leash aggressive. Maybe it's too late. Sure, I can walk solely in the other direction down our street and the problem would be solved. But why should I? There's a swimming spot that the dogs love to go to when we go "the bad way". Plus our friends live that way and we bring the dogs over there alot.

    Is there anything I can do for Frankie so he's not a big meanie on his leash? Besides bringing something on our walks to fend off the other dogs.

    Sigh.



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    Amy, I was just using "leash aggressive" as a potential talking point when you deal with your neighbors, and not any kind of diagnosis. So I don't know. Frankie seems like a pretty laid-back guy from the other things you said, so maybe he just hates these particular jerky dogs (and rightly so)? In any event, what I have always been told to do in stressful situations like that:

    --Stay very calm. They can feel the tension running down from you through the leash, and any subtle cues you are giving off that YOU are anxious.

    --Reward him a lot for turning away from the stressor toward you. You want him to look to you for guidance/leadership, so lots of praise/treating for eye contact.


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    --Reward him a lot for turning away from the stressor toward you. You want him to look to you for guidance/leadership, so lots of praise/treating for eye contact.
    Bingo! I always cookies in my pocket for them. Thanks! Before you even said "leash aggressive", I was thinking that anyway and was going to ask here.




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    Does Frankie know how to heel? Try bringing tiny treats along with you, and as another person approaches with their dog, have Frankie focus directly on you and give him little bits while saying Good Heel, Good Boy.
    Also, if you have a "nice" person to work with, try the exercise where you sort of do a figure 8, switching sides of the road while the two dogs approach. (Someone else more experienced can explain this one better, I hope)!
    Zena was leash fear aggressive. Not sure about now, but she was kept away from adoptions because she would snap at other dogs when they approached her on leash. She's actually a very submissive dog.
    I would also be adamant to that person who won't listen to you. Tell them DO NOT bring your dog over here, turn and walk the other way until she gets it.
    I've also found that with my dogs, if I keep moving and make them focus on me, they are less likely to start barking, etc. at the passing dogs. I tried the sit and wait technique; it works when I only have one, but when I'm walking two, it's like their is power in the numbers and they have to act like idiots! :

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    DefaultRe: Leash aggressive?

    We did go over that stuff in class. Thanks!



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    Is Frankie neutered yet?

    This behavior should not be allowed at all. Yes it's tough when a dog comes running over barking and growling and the dog is loose - that is a really hard situation to handle BUT when Frankie is on a leash and approaching other dogs leashed or not he should be in control and listening to you and never lunging, barking, growling, etc. Bottom line is getting tough and firm and stopping him.

    What type of collar is he wearing on walks?

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    You're absolutely right Sharon.

    No, he's not neutered yet. I'm bringing Tucker in tomorrow for his yearly so I'll make an appointment for Frankie's yearly and neutering then.

    I walk him with the prong collar, my husband uses a regular buckle collar.



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    http://www.flyingdogpress.com/casehis.html

    AGGRESSION: A Case History with Harry T.
    by Suzanne Clothier

    This case history is taken from an actual case; "Harry T." is not his real name - it seemed kinder to keep the names of the real people & dog out of the story. "Harry" agreed that this is a pretty accurate interpretation of his tale.

    I found her wandering on the streets so I don't know how old she is or where she came from. Her background is a mystery, but she seemed very sweet and looking for someone to love. I did wonder why no one had claimed her.

    For the first couple of months, we didn't really have any problems. I thought she was perfect. Looking back, I can see some signs of trouble brewing but at the time, they didn't seem important. I guess it was all just so new to her that she was being extra good, extra careful in all her dealings with me. Now, I'm afraid of her. Her aggressive behavior is destroying our relationship and I don't know how to stop her.

    There was a little incident with the food bowl, but I let her know in no uncertain terms that her behavior was not acceptable. I guess she's pretty smart, because after that she let me do whatever I wanted to with the bowl whether there was food in it or not. We also had a "discussion" about the couch and the bed - it took a while for her to understand that when I was relaxing, she had no right to disturb me. She forgets every now and then, but I just yell at her a little and she gives up.

    We live in a pretty quiet neighborhood, which is a good thing. I don't think she'd be able to handle living in a city. I've lived in a city and can handle all the commotion and people and loose dogs, but I think she'd just flip out. Anyway, I take her for lots of walks every day - good exercise for both of us and sometimes I've just got to get out of that house and breathe some fresh air and clear my mind.

    On our very first walk, I had noticed that she was pretty high strung and it hasn't gotten any better. She seems to worry a lot. If a car is coming our way, she'll panic and drag me to the side of the road, making high pitched sounds and frantic motions. The best I can do for her in that situation is reassure her that everything is okay, though I'm not sure she even hears what I'm saying she's so excited. She calms down a bit, but I can tell that she's still pretty jumpy.

    The worst part of the walk is when we encounter someone on the street. She wasn't always like this - I think it started one morning when we were walking and we met this really rude teenager. I saw him coming a block away and figured he was probably going to hassle us a bit, but decided to ignore it if I could. As we got closer, I could hear him saying some pretty rude stuff. His body language was very insulting. When we tried to walk past him, he crowded right into us. Well, that was all I was going to take from this punk. I charged right towards him and began hollering and yelling like I was nuts. At first he yelled back, but then he got scared and ran away - I guess he figured I was a lot tougher than I looked.

    I was pretty proud of how I handled that punk until I looked around and there she was. Shaking like a leaf, eyes all wide with fear. I started towards her and, poor thing, she somehow thought I was going after her! She backed away from me, whining - I thought she'd pee on herself she was so scared! I crouched down, thinking that would reassure her, but eventually I had to lie on the ground and look totally harmless before she'd approach me. That was probably the first time I found myself really wishing she spoke my language so I could tell her that all my blustering and yelling wasn't aimed at her, and that while I wanted to scare the kid, I wouldn't actually have hurt him. I think she never expected that kind of behavior from me.

    After that, it just got worse. It's like she went nuts. It used to be that I'd see strangers coming before she did, and I'd say something quietly under my breath to let her know what was coming. Pretty soon, she was seeing them long before I did. Now, my first clues that a problem is brewing are her pulling on the leash for all she's worth and growling at me. I'll look up and scan the street and sure enough, here comes somebody. I don't know how to handle this, so I'll yell at her to calm down and then I'll start yelling at the stranger to back off, go away, vamoose! I ask them, "Can't you see how freaked out she is? Why do you keep coming closer?" The whole time, she's still hysterical. Let me tell you, when she starts hauling on that leash, it's really painful!

    And it's getting worse - fast. She used to just pull really, really hard on the leash and scream and make a lot of noise. But now she's attacking me! I'm starting to think that the only way to stop her is to inflict some pain on her to get her to listen to me. Last week, she started a whole new behavior. We were walking along when she saw a dog coming down the street toward us. I had just enough time to think, "Uh-oh, here we go again..." and start yelling at the dog when she leaped on me and tried to push me to the ground. I was so stunned I didn't even react - what could I say? She'd obviously gone crazy. I wasn't hurt too much physically, but my feelings were very hurt.

    Thanks to this new behavior where she pushes me to the ground, I'm beginning to really hate walks, at least with her. Even though I am very upset (and I'll admit, scared) by what she's doing, I've kept my cool and I haven't hurt her. I could, of course, since I'm much stronger than she, but that seems so wrong. After all, she's just a helpless creature. When she tried pushing me around this morning, I wrestled with her a bit and yelled a lot. I did threaten to hurt her, and that seemed to scare her enough and she stopped.

    But how much of this does she think I can take? And you know what really burns me? She seems completely bewildered by the fact that I don't want to spend a lot of time with her anymore. I mean, who would want to hang out with someone who leaps on you for no reason at all? Can't she tell that she's hurting me and scaring me when she does that?

    I know we speak two different languages, and that she only understands a little bit of what I say. But this is really destroying our relationship. What can I do with her? I'd hate to get rid of her - most of the time she's a pretty good owner.

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    I love that article from Suzanne Clothier. Don't agree with everything she says, but that's a good one

    It's no fun to have a leash around your neck and to get hassled from both ends--dog and human. You want to create a situation in which Frankie *wants* to look to you for guidance.

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    You want to create a situation in which Frankie *wants* to look to you for guidance.
    He does, all the time. I panicked when it was happening and completely forgot that I need to take control. Poor Frankie. Bad Mommy I am



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