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    QuestionI think my black lab pup may be a mix

    my birthday was at the end of Feb. and my boyfriend got me a black lab pup for my birthday. I have a reddish "dudley" lab already - who is absolutely purebred despite his coloring-anyway, he saw how in love i was with my lab, so he got me a black lab. I love her to death, I named her Jellybean. I am really starting to wonder though if she is a mix though. She was supposedly born on jan 2, which would make her near 11 weeks now. She has white toes, and a white cross on her chest. She also has white under her chin. When I got her, she was bloated, she barely had teeth, and her eyes were glazed blue. I was concerned so I put her on goats milk with probiotic from the pet store for two weeks, mixed with purina wet puppy food. i fed her a few tablespoons and a few ounces four times a day. I wormed her myself, and she is eating a mix of wet puppy food and hard puppy food now. She just learned to growl and bark about 2 weeks ago, and her eyes lost their blue about 2 weeks ago. my concern (other than her color) is her size. she is very small relative to other lab puppies her age. she wears size xxs clothes and xs collar. I don't think she weighs anymore than 6-8 pounds. I asked to see her parents, and my boyfriend said he saw them himself, but one was black and the other was pale cream. he said they looked exactly alike, except their color. He said that they were different from my lab though, who is tall like a horse with a shorter coat. Her parents are short and furrier, but had that 'otter tail' and a lab face. they were just at knee level. I described them because I don't have a pic and the owners said the dogs were purebred, and my BF said there weren't any other dogs there. I think either, A.) she was ALOT younger than they said, or B.) she's a mixed dog. I've searched youtube and google all over for pictures and video of lab pups to compare her to, but i just don't know. what do you think? 479840_528843900488645_254716139_n.jpg522651_528895690483466_382858767_n.jpg576142_537146259658409_59061177_n.jpg803464_535121863194182_734906899_n.jpg
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    She is adorable.

    Looks to me as though there's some border collie maybe judging by the white areas and that adorable pink spotted chin.

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    Cute pup for sure, definitely not a pure breed lab.

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    collie was exactly what i was thinking too! but both parents were definitely shorter, furry labs, one black and one practically white. oh well, she definitely looks like a lab, hopefully she has their temperament, which is why i love my older one so much. my bf did it with the best intentions, even though at best this pup came from a backyard breeder. thanks for looking
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    was this a planned litter or an oops? just because the person you bought the dog from had two labs on site doesn't mean those are the two dogs that were bred. Maybe the female got out or was left unattended and another male got to her while she was in heat. There could also be multiple dads in a litter (i.e. the female was bred by two males or more so puppie have different dads).

    Given the shape the puppy was in when you got her I hope these people fixed their dogs to not have puppies again, how terribly sad. back yard breeder is putting it lightly. In the future definately talk to your boyfriend about the right way to get a puppy (ethical good breeder or a rescue/shelter). We all need to learn somehow, this is a good learning opportnity for him.

    The pup is beautiful and sounds like they are in great hands and very loved with you and your boyfriend. but definately looks like a mix in those photos. Not just because of the white (some labs have white on their chest or other body part) but overall look of the pup. But hard to tell at that age, you will definately know more as she grows up.
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    originally when i called to ask about her shot records ( i didn't want to have her over vaccinated) they told me it was an oops litter. today I called and was handed off to another in the home while the owner took care of a kid or something ... i jumped at the opportunity to ask questions, because the person i was handed to sounded younger (like a teen) I asked if the dogs had papers, and she said not that she knew of, I asked how big did she think the puppy would get, (i already knew, but still) she said, MY uncle has one of my mom's puppies and he's as tall as a horse or something, but my sister has one from last year and she's real small.

    SO ... I do not think this was an oops litter, according to the random source I pumped for info, I think this was that mother dog's 3rd litter at least, and it's hard to tell what's true or not because i've been given lies at every corner. I do know that my puppy looks just like the furry black male lab I saw that they claimed to be the father. She has white in the same spots even. I just want her to have a lab temperament and not a border collie (I've read they can be quite mean) the vet said the DNA test was mostly lab and that if he had to guess he would say one of her grandparent were either part collie or pure collie. I'm a bit sad that I didn't get my black lab but i'll love her just the same. oh, her name is JellyBean
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    Even if the parent are both labs, it does not guarantee temperment. temperment can be and is lost when people breed random labs (even pure bred dogs). Pure bred does not guarante temperment or health. These are things you look to improve/continue in a line. A dog from a byb that took no time to consider temperment or health - well you get what you can. it's a shot in the dark.

    I have met NASTY labs. Nasty (and not just because of how they were raised).

    Chances are very high you will get a great family member either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lavenderinscence View Post
    I just want her to have a lab temperament and not a border collie (I've read they can be quite mean)
    Border Collies mean??? Oh my gosh! Where did you hear that nonsense?!? (Yes, I have a B/C.)

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    oh my, i thought labs were gentle in nature always, unless it was raised to be horrible like some ppl do with fighting dogs. I took the good hearted lovingness of my yellow lab for granted, it seems. dear me, i'm worried now about her. i have a loving home but what if she has it in her genes to be "bad"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddysmom View Post
    Border Collies mean??? Oh my gosh! Where did you hear that nonsense?!? (Yes, I have a B/C.)
    Good point.

    A Border Collie can be mean if not well bred and undersocialised but they certainly should NOT be mean. In fact, no dog of any breed should be mean. some may not love strangers as much as the average lab, but absolutely no dog should be mean.

    BC's are great dogs. Can be super friendly and happy.
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