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    Lisa-How is Lola doing? Have you decided on a course of action yet about her hips?

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    Hi, thanks for asking. I sent her x-rays over to the ofa for consultation almost 2 weeks ago...hoping to hear from them this week. I run to the mail box everyday. I think the mailman thinks I am waiting for a big check or something As soon as I get their findings back I will make an appointment with a specialist. I spoke with the breeder and she has been so helpful and generous. She gave me the name of a ortho specialist on the cape who did one of her dogs surgeries, but I am still really leaning toward the NH doc you recommended...you really seemed to have complete faith in him.

    Lola is doing better...they have her on double dose of Glucosamine for 6 weeks. She seems to be responding well. She is jumping up on the bed, which she could never do before. I haven't decided which road I am going down yet. I guess I will feel like I can make a better decision after I hear how severe or not it is. I am so torn on what to do. I hear good stories and bad on both sides of the fence...the more I hear the more confused I get. All I know is my heart breaks for her everyday and I keep praying and asking God for a miracle...to heal my baby's hips. Thank you so much for thinking about us, it means alot. I truly have met such a great group of caring people here that I call friends. I'll keep you posted as soon as I hear anything. Thanks again
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    My heart breaks for you and what you're going through Lisa..it really does. I look at Java sometimes and just want to cry. My poor girl, at only a year old tore both knees, has had 2 surgeries to fix them and still has ED to deal with. BUT-she is amazing, as I'm sure Lola is. Java is adapting so well and she is really loving life right now. We take her for 2 mile walks twice a day, she can go for light-medium hikes though the woods and she goes swimming 3-4 times a week-all without any soreness, lameness or stiffness. Java is on some really great supplements also and they really seem to make a difference. I know it will be tougher on her when she's older, like it is for all dogs with joint issues, but we'll deal with that when the time comes. For now, I'm just looking forward to letting Java be a young dog again-soon!!

    I do know what you mean about reading and researching...sometimes it's too much. I did alot of reading after Java's diagnosis of bilateral ACL tears. There were so many stories-both good and bad, so many opinions from different people..I was confused and torn. I thought I knew what was best for Java, but the more I read the more unsure I became. Until honestly, we had our consult with Dr. Massat. To say that I have 100% confidence in him is an understatement. My faith in him is total-he immediately put me at ease. He answered every single question I had-no matter how dumb. He treated Java like she was the most important dog in the world to him, just like she was to us. He was so thorough in his exam and consultation with us-he spent 3 hours with us and Java during our first visit. He never rushed us on the phone or during any follow up appointments. I think if you do make an appointment for a consultation with him you will see exactly what I am talking about. He's just a wonderful man and an amazingly skilled doctor. He's very optimistic, but honest too-he gives it to you straight. Looking at Java, if I didn't tell you she had had 2 knee surgeries, you'd never know. I have told people that we have met at the dog park and they were amazed-more so that she had 2 and was only 12 weeks out from surgery #2. Dr. Massat did such a fantastic job with her surgeries. I couldn't be more satisfied with the entire experience, with the hospital, the surgeon, his staff and the outcome. It was more than I had hoped for.

    I so hope that things turn out well for Lola. I feel so much for our little girls...but, try to remember that if there is something wrong with her hips and she needs surgical intervention-it's not the end of the world. You may need to tailor activities and Lola's life to accomodate her hip issues, but she will still have a long, happy and loving life with you!!!

    If you have any questions, or just want to vent a little to someone who totally understands, please PM me......

    Take care and please update!!!
    Gina, Java & Moka

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    I know Gina...I remember when you first posted about Java, I felt so bad for your pup and you. I am so happy Java is doing better and I pray her ED never gives her any trouble. It is such a joy to see them running around and being happy. It was rainy here today, so I took the dogs to the town beach this morning ( it is off limits to dogs for the summer...but it was terrible out and no one was there) they had a blast. Lola loves to swim and Gracie likes to run. I can only imagine how happy you are to see Java getting to be a puppy. I will keep you posted. Thanks for all your help and advice. I am sure I'll be asking more questions soon.

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    I hope Java's ED never gives her any problems also...Dr. Massat said it may not ever be a problem for her. We will be taking her back to Dr. Massat in the spring for x-rays and to re-evaluate her elbows. We wanted to give her time to totally heal from her knee surgeries, then see how the elbows are. They may have been bothering her more because she was having to compensate for her bad knees. For now, the head bobbing and limping on her front legs has completely stopped and she hasn't fallen on her face in a couple of months (really sad-her left front leg would give out and she'd fall on her nose), so that is all good news.

    Does Lola show any symptoms of hip pain at all after doing things like going to the beach?

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    I am glad Java isn't falling anymore...that must have broke your heart to see that happen. Lola does not limp unless she does a lot of running around. When her and Gracie play hard she begins to hold up her left leg. I try to keep that crazy play short, but she just loves to play. Swimming does not seem to bother her at all. She only swims a little bit at the time though...she seems to tire easily, so that may be a sign that it bothers her some...but no limping when she comes out of the water. I usually do 2 to 3 short walks a day, not to long or far. No playing any games that make her jump and land hard on her legs, even fetch we keep to a minimum...I hate when she runs and stops short...that looks like it would hurt. Sometimes she will whine for no apparent reason, so I am not sure if she is uncomfortable or just whining....she is a whiny girl sometimes.
    I hope I get her results from ofa today, if I do I will post here.
    How is Mocha by the way?

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    When Moka runs and stops short it makes me cringe every time also because that's how Java tore her knees....I almost don't want to play fetch anymore.

    Moka is just about perfect!! She has never limped or favored her broken leg at all. Her gait is a *little* odd, but I'm the only one that can tell. No one else has ever noticed. Of course, when we're out playing or walking I'm staring at both her and Java's back end the whole time...so I may just be overanalyzing. Moka has no restrictions at all...she's a happy puppy!!

    The wait for those OFA results must be killing you!!

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    That is great that Mocha is doing so well... I over analyze like you too. I watch every limp, I look at their gate, I think sometimes I see things that aren't even there. I hate playing fetch too. Gracie runs 100 mph and stops short..I just hold my breath. Lately there has been no fetch...just jogging on the beach or walking.

    Results in...I am crying as I am writing this, severe HD at 10 months were her results. I am so sad for her. I guess my next step is a visit to the specialist for consultation and see exactly what he has to say. I am so devastated, because I know, no matter what, my baby is going to be in some pain...in some way, shape or form. I don't understand...her parents hips were both ofa good. I am just happy that she is hear with me. I will do my very best to take the best care of her. I have a friend who has a pup the same age as Lola... his pup has bad hips too. He was talking about having him put down. It broke my heart.

    The good thing is Lola never seems like she is in pain. I wish she could talk to me and let me know for sure. Well I think I am going to go take the girls for a swim...talk later.

    Lisa, Lola and Gracie

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    Oh I'm so sorry that you didn't get good news. Java has ED, yet both of her parents had full clearnaces for elbows. Sometimes, it just happens. According to the OFa website, 12.2% of pups born to OFA cleared parents will develop ED. I'm sure it's something similar with HD. It just sucks that it has to be our pups.
    On the up side, Dr. Massat told me when we were discussing Java's elbows that he sees the x-rays of dogs that shouldn't be able to walk, yet they do. They shouldn't be able to run or play, yet they do that too. He told me we need to treat Java, not her x-rays, and that dogs are amazing. They will defy most odds and jump over most obstacles that you put in their way.
    There are so many things that can be done for our pups nowadays, so many ways to help them. I know you'll do everything you can to make sure that Lola lives a happy, healthy, pain free as possible life.
    BTW-according to Java's doc and Physical Therapist, swimming is the single best thing for them to be doing because it is no impact and does not stress their joints. So, keep swimming!!


    BUT-it's still heartbreaking.

    Where in MA did you say you were?

    Gina, Java & Moka

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    Thanks Gina for all your words of encouragement. We swim almost everyday, we are fortunate to live on the beach. Lola can go swimming right off the steps. She likes to go at high tide...she swims a bit, rests and swims some more. She loves the water. Gracie will only get her feet wet...she forgot she is a labrador.

    I will keep you posted on Lola's updates. Thanks again for all your suggestions and help. We are in Swansea, MA

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