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    FrenchMaddie is offline Member
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    I did my first show in France last weekend. In the UK I know that the judges check for a scissor bite (which my dog has), but I discovered in France the judges actually COUNT the teeth! Unfortunately my pup has four pre-molars missing, one on each side top and bottom (she is 7 months old) so that has knocked us for six. (BTW the judge did sanitise his hands in between each examination!!!)

    Has anyone any comments or experiences they can share with me about this subject? I realise most of you may be based in the US but I'd be interested to hear what judges do/consider in other parts of the world.
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    DefaultRe: Dentition

    In the US I think it depends entirely on the judge. For example, some are considered "head" or "teeth" judges, some are "movement" judges, etc. A movement judge is likely to over look a couple of missing teeth IF the dog has excellent movement whereas a "teeth" judge will not accept anything other than all teeth no matter what the dog looks/moves like (unless the dog is some exceptional specimen). Most people in the US research the judges and know what the judge likes including anyparticular sticking points. If they have a dog missing teeth, they will not show to a judge who is obsessed with teeth. It isn't worth the time or money.
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    DefaultRe: Dentition

    My girl Maddie is also missing 4 premolars. As Rottenlabs said it all depends on the judge. I won't enter under a tooth fairy because it is a waste of money. I perfer Breeder judges as they usually only check the bite and my girl is very typey. We either get dumped or do very well in the ring depending on how important teeth are to the judge.
    BTW Maddie has been bred once to a dog with full dentition. The girl I kept has full dentition and the boy is missing one premolar. I do not know about the pet pups from the litter yet.

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    DefaultRe: Dentition

    It's interesting. I spoke to my dog's breeder (a very well known and successful breeder in Europe) and she assured me it is not a huge problem but there are some judges who with immediately discount a dog lacking full dentition, as you both said, but these are more likely to be non-lab specialists. As a novice, it is hard for me to know who are the judges to avoid. Interestingly my dog was the only one of this particular litter who was sold to a show home (so I believe though I may be wrong) but she has not heard of any of the other pups in the litter having teeth missing.

    Thanks for your comments, I appreciate the feedback and if anyone else has anything they'd like to share, keep it coming!!
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    DefaultRe: Dentition

    In canada missing teeth is not in our breed standard for judging, but i would wonder why they are missing teeth.especially that many teeth and premolars and molars.
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    DefaultRe: Dentition

    No molars missing just 4 premolars one on each side top and bottom. Teeth, some would argue, that a retreiver doesn't actually require!! It's not in our breed standard either but it doesn't stop judges who are not breed specialist counting the darn things!!
    Nicola, Milly, Coco and Blue!<br />&quot;No matter how little money and how few possessions you own, having a dog makes you rich&quot; - Louis Sabin<br />

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