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    Default Dana - fish question

    I remember you saying something about some fish being OK and others not.... I don't remember why...?

    I know you said mackerel was OK, what about smelts or sardines (not canned, the whole fishes... )

    I can get Mackerel, but smelts and sardines are more Peanut-size.
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    im not dana but I'll throw in my $0.02.

    Sardines are good
    Anchovies are good
    Salmon is good (but I think you have to freeze it for a while before feeding it raw, cant rember why though)
    Rainbow Trout is good

    All of the above are high in omega-3s

    My cat and ferret LOVE whole rainbow trout. Apparently its a pretty healthy fish to feed. ( http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=1521 ) its also high in omega-3s (much like salmon). If you find a small trout Peanut should be able to munch it down without much difficultly. If a 1 lb ferret can do it, Im sure peanut can. ;D

    When shopping for whole fish make sure the eyes bulge a little and that the inside of the gills is pink/red. Its also reccommened if you yourself are eating raw fish (think sushi) or you are feeding it to a pet that you bring a smaller cooler with ice along with you when you go to buy the fish. It helps to keep the fish fresh on the way home from the store.

    I've heard that tuna can lower vitamen E levels, but I cant remember WHERE I heard that or if its even true, maybe others can elaborate.

    I've also heard to only feed fish once a week or less. Again, I cant remember why (maybe some of you guys can help me out). Anywhoo, fish is a nice healthy addition to the diet. And like I said my cat and ferrets L-O-V-E it.

    Thats my $0.02.

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    Some salmon has parasites in it that can be killed only by freezing it for about 30 days before the dog eats it. Dana made a list of fish that was safe. Somewhere in here you could find it. Not sure where though. It was quite long and had both what was good and what was not. You might want to check her website, too. Might be something there.
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    Thanks Yellow Boys Mom, I knew something was up with salmon.

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    http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=15890

    Don't know if this wil help.
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    Some fish contain Thiaminase, an enzyme that inhibits thiamine (a B vitamin) absorption. This is only to be considered if you feed a large quantity of fish. If you only feed once a week or so, you might not need to be too careful.
    Here is a partial list:

    Fish Reported to contain Thiaminase:

    White Bass – Morone chrysops

    Bowfin – Amia calva

    Bream – Abramis brama (Not the U.S. fish; see this link).

    Buffalofish – Ictiobus cyprinellus

    Bullhead catfish – Ameiurus m. melas

    Carp – Cyprinus carpio

    Channel Catfish – Ictalurus punctatus

    Fathead minnow – Pimephales promelas (the red rosy is a color morph of this fish!)

    Garfish (Garpike)

    Goldfish – Carassius auratus

    Moray Eel – Gymnothorax ocellatus (since someone recently asked about keeping the brackish water species with turtles…)

    Gizzard Shad – Dorosoma cepedianum

    Spottail Shiner – Notropis hudsonius

    Buckeye shiner – Notropis atherinoides

    Central Stoneroller – Campostoma anomalum pullum

    Common White Sucker – Catostomus commersoni

    Lake Whitefish – Coregonus clupeiformis



    b. Fish Reported to not contain Thiaminase:

    Largemouth Bass – Huro salmoides (I think that’s actually now Micropterus salmoides)

    Rock Bass – Ambloplites rupestris

    Smallmouth Bass – Micropterus dolomieu

    Bluegill – Lepomis macrochirus

    Chub (Bloater) – Coregonus hoyi

    Cod – Gadus morhua

    Crappie – Pomoxis nigromaculatus

    Eel – Anguilla rostrata

    Northern Longnose Gar – Lepisosteus osseus oxyurus

    Northern Pike – Esox lucius

    Pumpkinseed – Lepomis gibbosus

    Salmon – Salmo salar

    Brown Trout – Salmo trutta fario

    Lake Trout – Salvelinus namaycush

    Rainbow Trout – Salmo gairdnerii irideus

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    Default Re: Dana - fish question

    Ok thanks!

    We'll probably only have "fish night" once a week or so, so I'll go ahead and pick up some smelts, sardines and mackerel.
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    Stick with the atlantic mackerel...I think smelts and sardines are high in thiaminase
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallRiver
    Stick with the atlantic mackerel...I think smelts and sardines are high in thiaminase
    Really? Dang.

    Ah well, Peanut will just have to stretch her little jaw.
    Kate
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    How about the fish Whiting, where does this fit in on the recommended list?

    thanks,

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