Does anybody know when Males become sexually mature?
My boyfriend and I have been tossing around the idea of using him for breeding. We have a few family friends that took pups from a couple of my last labs litters who were intrested in using him for a breeder.
We got Luke from a Rescue Shelter north of where I live, and they estimated him to be around 6 or 7 months old. How old do they have to be before you can use them as a stud?
You got Luke from a rescue, so you must realize that there are way too many labs for homes as it is now. Millions of dogs are euthanized every year. That includes hundreds -- if not thousands -- of labradors for which there are no homes. Why do you want to add to the population?
No dog or bitch should be bred until they are two years old and have all of their health clearances - hip/elbow, eyes, etc. Since Luke is a rescue, I'm assuming that you have no idea of his background. If this is the case, then I don't think he should be bred. You would have no way of knowing whether HD, ED, and any other hereditary issues are in his background.
I second everything ThatsMyGirl said.
What type of rescue did you get him from?? Everyone I know of require their dogs to be altered and most do it before they are even adopted out.
~Nicole<br />Grand Ledge, MI<br /><br />
We got him from just a regular animal shelter/rescue up north. He was seized because the people that had him couldn't afford to take care of him, the shelter has copies of his papers as do we and hes purebred. As far as his health goes, hes been cleared by the vet on his hips, eyes, as well as being updated on all his shots and vaccines. The vet said hes very healthy despite being starved by the people that had him. We got him last month, on the 12th i believe, and hes gained a soild 15 pounds since then, hes up to right around 75 pounds now.
And its not the fact that i want to add to the population,(i didn't go to a breeder and get a brand new puppy, i RESCUED one) its more or less of the fact that hes beautiful, extremely smart and an excellent retriever, and the two family friends that had asked about breeding him with their dogs were intrested. We arn't sure that we do want to breed him at all, i was just curious as to the age for breeding. but thanks for the input
As mentioned, to be really cleared on elbows and hips you need to wait until he is two years old and send the x-rays to OFA to be evaluated/cleared. You would also need to do Optigen test for eyes (to make sure he isn't a carrier for PRA which can cause blindness) - in addition to taking him to a eye specialist for regular eye checks. It's nice that he has papers but unless you know the dogs in his pedigree and what they produce, good and bad, it's just paper. Some dog can breed at your dog's age but it doesn't mean that they should.
Why not tell your friends to get their dogs from a rescue?* There are a lot of mutts out there who are extremely smart, beautiful and excellent retrievers, so that excuse does not fly with me. Also, if you have to ask questions about when a dog is sexually mature, then you have no business breeding.
I agree with everyone here that you shouldn't consider breeding him. I mean, he is a shelter dog... Let that speak for itself as far as your responsibility as a pet owner. You should feel so rewarded that you rescued an animal who didn't have a home... Feel rewarded in that and not turn around and add more dogs to the population.
You may want to breed him because of his good traits... However, think about the fact that he is a purebred who came from a shelter. Who's to say that whatever puppies you bring into the world wouldn't end up with the same fate? And perhaps they might not be lucky enough to be rescued. And you can sit there and say "Well, I'd find good homes for the puppies" but yet that is probably what the people who bred Luke's parents thought too... But he still ended up in a shelter.
Also, something else to consider... If you do not have his joints, his eyes, and everything else tested, as well as those of the female then you are running the risk of having puppies with some serious problems. And then what? No one is going to buy a puppy with health problems.
Maybe after all of this perhaps you should research and inform your family friends on the health benefits of having their females spayed... As well as the benefits of having a male neutered. Just a thought.
*~ Sarina ~* - Proud servant to Lexus...<br />
I'm with the others. Please do not stud your boy. Be happy with what a good boy he is, and satisfied you have rescued him. Labs are sooooo overbred. Leave breeding to people who know what they are doing, who have titled dogs and health clearances, and who understand what a huge undertaking whelping a litter is.
~Jo & CoCo
Just have to agree with everyone else. My Roxy is beautiful (in my eyes) very smart, great temperment and healthy. I bought her from a breeder (BYB but I didn't know better at the time) and she is AKC registered, so I know her history. But would I ever consider breeding her? Heck no, that's why she is spayed. I've done a lot of reading about breeding, but only because it interests me. I have no where near enough knowledge to be doing so, just enough to convience others not to.
Also, your regular vet cannot determine if your lab had good hips/elbows. Eyes must be done by a specialist as well. These tests can't be done till the dog/bitch is 2 years old and it is not cheap.
I would strongly encourage you to do LOTS of research about proper lab conformation, genetics, pedigrees, ect before even considering breeding. Then get involved in showing/field trails (whichever intrests you) so you understand what a lab should be and what your goal is. Then find a reputable breeder who will agree to mentor you in the process and pick a good foundation bitch.
You must understand that this is EXACTLY the kind of mentality that has led to so many labs needing to be rescued!!!!!! Please do your research and convince your family and friends to learn what it means to breed RESPONSIBLY and spay/neuter their pets.And its not the fact that i want to add to the population,(i didn't go to a breeder and get a brand new puppy, i RESCUED one) its more or less of the fact that hes beautiful, extremely smart and an excellent retriever, and the two family friends that had asked about breeding him with their dogs were intrested